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November 7, 2011 at 5:35 pm #3916hadj608Participant
My niece who is 4 yrs younger than me is a pain in the ass. really. I love her but she is high maintenance. I believe she has a wiring issue and needs help.
Ok. so my h acted out in lots of ways, but particularly on golf weekend with his brother and my nieces husband. According to my h, my nieces husband always walked up to the line but never crossed it. (what ever the hell that means?). The jolly brothers fucked whatever they could. (no need for condoms ~ these were nice girls).
Anyway, since all of my h’s shit hit the fan and lots more was exposed, my niece has now claimed that my h has made hundreds of passes at her, starting when she was 14. She now claims he is an evil pedophile. That what he did has terrorized her for her whole life and she has had trouble dealing with it. She wont say what happened specifically. My h denies all of it. He gets wild when I try to talk about it, even in front of the csat. She did not show up on the polygraph test as one of the under 18 year olds. He passed the test. Hard to know here, like I said she is a pain in the ass, loves to be a victim in every situation, she is nuts really. (cannot imagine why he would mess with that hornets nest ever!)So…..more stupid drama….. The other day on facebook, my niece and my brother in law (jolly fucking brother) and his wife ~ who has forgiven him completely ~ were all messaging each other. It was all fun, haha banter back and forth. Well it made me incredibly sad. I am no part of my old life anymore. I ran/walked 10.5 miles and came home and unfriended the whole bunch of them. problem solved. I can’t see it, it makes me feel sick.
Well my niece went ballistic on me and sent some really terrible emails for “excluding her”. I told her I miss my old life and it makes me sad when I see it. I need to protect myself for a while. And for cry-yie its only face book!
no, she turned this into a vendetta against her and her family. So enough email I called her. it was ugly. I did not hold back. She kept grabbing for reasons to make this about her (martyr). SOOO she brought my h into it, and how abused she was. Still wont say what he did, but I’m pretty sure he played footsie with her several times. SO I flipped my wig and said that I am sorry for any thing bad that happened to her. BUT this is between her and my h. NO ONE told me. I would have done something about it 30,25,20,15,10,2 years ago if I knew. I did not know, therefore this has nothing to do with me! No one gave me the option and its not fair to dump it on me now!Am I right?
She wants sympathy from me when, She claims to have known he was a pig for 30 years (it never stopped her from hanging out with us though or having us watch her kids!), Her husband has been with him while he was acting out for at least 8 years. she just found that out. I think her husband is a pig for going along every year. I don’t blame him, but I also don’t like him anymore. I’m allowed to feel ripped off! right?
Scary thing, I think she recorded our phone convo. SHe is weird like that. I didn’t say anything I regret. but I am wondering if she is going to try to sue him somehow. she loves to litigate. Is it even possible?
what a mess.Heidi
November 7, 2011 at 6:00 pm #21827dianeParticipantI have no idea what’s possible any more.
But I just think you need to run not walk from this bunch of denying, complicit, blaming, abusive bunch. I don’t know how a nice person like you got in with this crew, but you need to build a new life with some people who aren’t crazy. I don’t even think they’ve hit their running speed yet. There’s more to come. And you, as the person opting out, will be the target.
As far as you h. goes, who knows what he did. But he created a situation in which you don’t know what to believe about him. Your niece didnt’ create that. He did.What do you really want? Have you had enough of this? Or are you going back in for more?
You deserve so much better than this. And I know you know that. It’s just a complicated emotional mess.
Meanwhile, I’m packing for a four day getaway with the new man in my life. The kind honest loving man that I made room for by clearing out the rest of the junk.
I’m just saying…..
love,
D.November 7, 2011 at 10:04 pm #21828lyloParticipantExactly, Diane (lucky lady!) Clear out the junk. There is no way for Heidi to know what is fact or fiction and that is his doing. These are a bunch of selfish, childish, people with zero integrity or regard for her wellbeing. I have had to 86 people from my life that chose to keep silent about what they knew. In the age of horrid sexually transmitted diseases, the old excuses don’t hold water. Clearly, losing favor with my husband trumped protecting my health and wellbeing. Heidi you said it yourself – if she had clued you in years ago, you could have taken a stand. You’ve done the right thing. Too bad you couldn’t have done it years ago.
November 7, 2011 at 10:55 pm #21829floraParticipantIts easy. Your h is no longer your problem. Are you seperated? If so he IS absolutely no longer your problem. Any issues she has with him, need to be addressed with him, as you are no longer attached to him. And say that to her. Say you have no reason to not beleive what she says, but id does not matter. Tell her to call the appropirate athorities; who cares. however if his name is on anything of yours….if she sues for damages…she may be entitled to your things.
Given the guy you know your h is, i however would not dismiss what she says. I would not entertain it, however i would not defend him in anyway. He may very well have done things. Maybe now that this has come out, she felt is was safe to tell. Don’t shoot the messenger right??
I too would run for the hills. My main hope is that all the financial stuff gets squared away.
Your husband has showed you who he is…beleive him and run. He is a man who came home and announced the the family he was leaving you, he is a man who feels he has no problems, he is not an addicts, and does not need to go to 12 step….BUT in doing so has shown you he cannot take responsility for himself, will dispose of you at a drop of a hat, has no respect for you, he is a liar….need i go on.
There is so much of the character that is revealed to us with this addiction….and if they are not willing to do the work and take the steps…there is absolutely no hope.
Just a life of more of the smae. Maybe a different scenery, different mo, but it will all still end up the same.
Beleive him when he showed you. there are no excuses, there is no reason.
Love,
FloraNovember 8, 2011 at 6:45 am #21830silver-liningParticipantAmen, Flora!!!!!
Heidi/ RUN!!!! You are NOT crazy, I know that for a fact!!
Good lord, I’m hurting for you girl! Hang in there!
I love you!!!
SL
November 8, 2011 at 1:55 pm #21831napParticipantHi Heidi,
If you can, don’t talk to these people anymore, they are selfish and are abusing you with all their BS. You don’t have to explain or defend anything to these people. Protect yourself by avoiding them if you have to speak on or two word phrases. Don’t let them rope you onto their sick world. Your instincts are spot on and keep moving forward. I hope you can file soon because that would shut everybody up. You’re done.
Love, NapNovember 8, 2011 at 3:18 pm #21832hadj608ParticipantOh my gosh, you ladies are much better sisters than my relatives are!!!! Thank you for getting it. I am so tired of taking shit from people.
diane you are right, I bet there will be more to come. ONe of my goals was to handle this with as much dignity and grace as I can muster. Sometimes thats not possible. Sometimes I just need to protect myself. I hope I know the worst of it.lylo holy tamole!!!! how do you deal with these people now??? Its betrayal every where you turn! I hate them all for you! I hope they are terribly ashamed of themselves now. my daughter threw one of my lines back at me the other day. The best revenge is success, and stay away from people who think the best success is revenge!!
flora you are right. It doesn’t matter what he did or thinks he is. I have everything I need. I have a check list to freedom. I try to focus on that, not him being so nice now. jerk. Friday….is my big day. I like my proposal and I did my homework. They are looking for concessions for signing for 10 years, I have 3 proposals put together. I can’t believe you figure out these values for a living!! It’s like a moving target!
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