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November 18, 2012 at 6:02 am #6035cindy1111Participant
Sisters,
I have been struggling. I am not in a good place. I think Thursday mediation turned into the actual divorce. I don’t know if it is my mental state of being or what, but I really don’t know what or how it happened. I feel like I was blindsided and taken advantage of. All I know is that I got screwed. My lawyer even said to me how sorry he is that my H fucked up my life. I found out that he stole another $100,000 and there is nothing I can do about it. Basically he got 64% percent of the property and I got 36%. (Thanks to my dear friend Nap who helped me figure that out.) I have been in to much pain to write about all that has been happening, but I just want to shout out to NAP because she has been there for me. I still really can’t write about everything, but just wanted to let you know some of the details. It looks like all the nightmares that I thought would happen, really DID happen. Sisters, this is a real problem. Woman are getting screwed out of their life. I am very concerned. I really tried to fight hard for myself. Nothing worked. He gets the business, and I get the house which basically amount to nothing because he took most of the equity through stealing the home equity loans. I also get to pay the home equity loans. I don’t even know how to explain what happened. I even am paying some of his lawyer costs.I am in a state of shock all over again. So, so sad. I am frozen. I can’t move. I don’t know what I am going to do. It is over for me.
don’t dont don’t trust these ass holes. I have never been more serious. They are serious narcissistic psycho paths.
Let my bad experience be a lesson. I will try really hard to write more when I get some strength. But I want to help everyone here. This is some scary shit.
November 18, 2012 at 6:27 am #59522hadj608ParticipantOh Cindy I am so sorry. I don’t even know what to say to you. I’m shocked and angry. take time for yourself and stay calm. Brighter days are around the corner. Karma’s a bitch and I can’t even write down all the horrid things he deserves to have come his way. He didn’t win though Cindy. He is and will always be a sick person, his life is going to stay complicated. You are smart, kind, and have your mental health. The proof will be in the pudding and I predict you are going to thrive once you get your sea legs back.
Hugs
HeidiNovember 18, 2012 at 9:25 am #59523lisakParticipantcindy, i don’t know what to say either. other than i love you, and am speechless. wishing you strength.
even in this dark moment you are thinking of others. you are wonderful. i’m so sorry.
November 18, 2012 at 9:59 am #59524deboraParticipantOh Cindy,
It’s hard to believe this has happened to you. This is a sobering warning. Please take good care of yourself. I wish I had some magic eraser words. He is the real loser here in so many ways. Lean on your friends and family and SOS.
Love you, Debora
November 18, 2012 at 11:45 am #59525teriParticipantWhat the hell was your lawyer doing? This was mediation! If the offer sucked, you walk away and say “see you in court.” Were these Final Orders you were mediating?
I’m so sorry for what you are going through. It sounds horrific. I’m not sure what can be done about it now, but I would check my options if I were you. Mediation gives general terms and details are usually drawn up later in the long form. So if you think something is wrong or you feel like you didn’t understand, you usually agree to go back the mediator but they will stick to their notes on what was agreed on, so I don’t know if there is any wiggle room there. Also, the judge still has to sign off on it and they are supposed to keep an eye out for anything that’s off, so maybe that’s an opportunity?
I could be wrong but it seems to me that if you got screwed it is not your fault or even your SA’s fault but your attorney’s fault. Your attorney should have been protecting you instead of apologizing for him fucking up your life! It is so important to have an attorney that is a bulldog and understands guys like this- either addiction or high conflict divorce.
Cindy, it could be really helpful for everyone to hear your experience so they could learn from it- all the gory details. If you feel able to share them.
I am so sorry. It is so hard to protect yourself from these guys. They are master manipulators and assholes. I am so upset that this happened to you.
November 18, 2012 at 1:27 pm #59526silver-liningParticipantWow Cindy, I can’t believe it!! I am soooo sorry to hear this and I know how worried about it you have been!! (even back to our chat on the phone 1 1/2 years ago). It is extra hard for me to understand because it’s the opposite of my experience. I did feel like Dum Dum kinda laid down his sword and gave me what I asked for – perhaps that is truer than I thought. I will be thinking of you and praying for a miracle in your life. You are one of the sweetest people I know!! I love you, Cindy!
And I agree with Teri. I would be looking at your lawyer as well. Something doesn’t sound right….. And yes, mediation can be walked away from. If you are confused and you only “think” you are divorced – then your attorney did not do his job. I have never heard of anyone walking away from mediation and saying “What happened?” That should have been crystal clear to you. Shame on your attorney AND the mediator. If you “find out” you are not divorced…. Fire that idiot and get another one (I prefer a female).
Cindy, you can still call me anytime!
Love, SL
November 18, 2012 at 2:05 pm #59527another-testParticipantHi Cindy, I hear your shock and dismay at the recent events in your life. I am so sorry that you are going through this and I feel your pain. That’s the way it is with these assholes they inflict trauma and confusion into our lives. Nothing seems fair and balanced. I literally just changed attorneys yesterday. March brought it home to me that I was still walking with tiptoes as my SAH messes with my own livelihood. He threw me to the curb and started a new life. Yesterday, I just received another hospital bill for $5000. The asshole wouldn’t put me on his insurance so now I will pay out of pocket. After receiving the text that it was over and later finding out he called an escort service I fell apart. The hotel arranged to take me to the emergency room because I was so devastated and distraught. They kept me overnight and released me the next day. SAH never responded to their phone calls. I never felt so low and alone in my life. The Miami trip costs me thousands of dollars and so much pain and agony. It is more of the same bullshit, destruction. That is what he brought to my life, destruction. I haven’t even posted here yet that we were not able to have our own children. I wonder how much the SA contributed to that? For the last year we were in the process of bonding and trying to adopt my godchild. It was the happiest that I ever felt in so long as she and I grew very close. She loved me. She played with me. It was a real relationship. Then, I discovered that the SA was acting out again. Then I found his drugs. He was never committed to adopting this child just as he was never committed to starting a family. He would not even be able to pass a drug test. Then he got the DUI. Then he dumped me and moved to Miami. I just called off the home study. I realize that it is for the best for Mary Jane. But I know my fragility with our breakup was compounded by losing this sweet girl, the chance to a parent.
As I write I am thinking to myself why I am writing about me when Cindy is in so much pain? It’s because I do truly understand the pain and devastation. The consequences of his actions and behavior and the instability it brought to me life. My confidence and self-esteem have really taken a hit. In Miami, I honestly thought that I did not want to go on anymore. I still think about how I will make it from this point forward. All’s I can say is that I KNOW we are good people, and loving wives. We gave our hearts to men who truly hurt us and can hurt us as long a they are in our lives. I am finding that the more I move in the direction of separating myself from him it is my only hope at a brighter future.
You are right … they are narcissitic sociopaths … pyschos. Do whatever you can to get more clarity about this. You do not deserve this. Don’t give up. Keep fighting. I hope that you are able to settle everything and try to sort this out. Stand tall and carry a big stick. Best, Bren.
November 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm #59528kmfMemberDear Cindy,
I am shocked, discusted, nauseated and offended on every level for you. I agree with everyone else though…either your lawyer is a complete idiot or something about all this does not seem right? Please try to function enough to make SURE you do not have any recourse to fight this? Does he even have to pay you any support after all that testing he put you through. I am so upset for you Cindy…..I almost don’t know what to say except we all care about you and we will help in any way we can. You don’t have to convince me what he is Cindy. I KNOW exactly what he is. HUGE HUGS and PRAYERS to you.
Karen xxNovember 18, 2012 at 2:26 pm #59529972MemberCindy, I don’t know what to say. I have no experience with legal dealings but I do know that when someone walks out of a mediation and does not even really know what happened then that’s not right.
I am so sorry and I hope and pray that maybe you have some recourse. Try to find the strength to call another attorney and get you case reviewed. I understand it’s the last thing you feel like doing but the whole thing sounds shaky.
I will be sending prayers your way.
November 18, 2012 at 2:34 pm #59530daisy1962MemberCindy, I second what all the sisters have said. Take some time to gather your strength and then, even though I know this already seems endless and daunting, you need to FIGHT. Your attorney should be fired. There is absolutely no legal way that a mediation can turn into a divorce. Not possible. So you were either misinformed or mislead. In either case, your attorney is not doing his job and needs to be terminated immediately. Take every piece of paper you have regarding your case and find an attorney who can look it over and see where you are and what you need to do next. Please don’t wait until after Thanksgiving. Even if a final order was filed you should be able to appeal it if filing a final order was not your intention. If you don’t know any other attorneys and your friends can’t reccommend someone, call your local bar association for a referral. Tell them it’s an emergency.
Sending you strength, resolve and ANGER. Get mad Cindy and then get even.
With love,
DaisyNovember 18, 2012 at 2:51 pm #59531kmfMemberThank you daisy!
November 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm #59532napParticipantYes, thank you Daisy!
November 18, 2012 at 3:38 pm #59533lizaParticipantOh Cindy, my sweet sister, don’t give up! Good advice from the Sisters and especially Daisy…. Please girl, just stay strong for a little longer. We’ll hold you up, and I promise by God, we’ll find you some justice. I love you, Liza
November 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm #59534dianeParticipantCindy, I”m just sick about this–like all of the sisters. I don’t understand how this happened. It sounds like you don’t either.
Please take Daisy’s advice. Please try again. I know you are feeling like a dishrag, but this is the rest of your life here—-it sounds like your lawyer was AWOL even though the was in the room. There is something very wrong about how this unfolded. YOu shouldn’t feel sideswiped.
Please Please throw yourself at the mercy of another lawyer, keep calling until you get one who will review this mess for you. Remember what’s at stake here.I wish we could wrap our arms around you, I really do. Please trust the sisters and don’t lie down yet. Rustle up some anger.
It’s not over until you say it is.
special thoughts for your today, Cindy,
Diane.xoNovember 18, 2012 at 3:50 pm #59535sandyParticipantCindy, I think you would have had to sign something, a final judgement that says you agree to the terms of the settlement. Did your lawyer have you sign anything? Given that it was a mediation, papers wouldn’t have been prepared that contained the contents of what was discussed at the mediation. I would call your lawyer first thing tomorrow morning and insist on a meeting with him. I would also take someone else with you that listen for you and make sure everything is clear.
I cannot believe that the courts, and mired as they are in paper and process, would work in that way.
Hang in there. You may not be done, and it may end better than this.
Sandy
November 18, 2012 at 8:22 pm #59536lynng2ParticipantCindy,
Appeal, if nothing else. I am as confused as everyone else but it doesn’t sound like a final decree, at least from what you describe. Another attorney is definitely in order and NOW!
Lynn
November 18, 2012 at 8:29 pm #59537sharronParticipantCindy – My heart is aching for you. I agree with Sunny. The purpose of Mediation is for the two of you to reach an amiable agreement that is fair and reasonable for the both of you. Obviously,.That didn’t happen, so I do not understand how final papers can be filed with the court and the divorce is now final. You have to sign the agreement, as does your h. At least that is how it works in kansas. If the two of you do not reach an agreement in mediation, a court hearing should be scheduled and the case heard before a judge with both of you presenting your case.
My recent divorce was heard before the judge. He asked both of us if we felt the property settlement agreement was fair and reasonable. If one of us said no, the judge would have made the ruling.
Did your lawyer draw up a property settlement agreement? Most attorney’s do not like to go into mediation or divorce court without one. Then, as I said, if one of you refused to sign in mediation, it is up to the judge to make the ruling.
Sounds like your attorney is a dipshit. Please nail him to the wall and get some answers. If your divorce was granted, then I would request a hearing with the judge and explain that you have no idea what went on in mediation. (Get a bull-dog attorney and take him with you.)-You were not informed! Therefore, request he take your demands into consideration before making a decision to grant the divorce. This all sounds totally illegal to me. Both parties have to be equally informed of any decision made in mediation.
Keep us all posted, and my prayers are with you.November 18, 2012 at 9:22 pm #59538debincaParticipantCindy
My heart goes out to you. SAs/NPDs never win in the end because they have to live with themselves…
Ditto on what everyone said…plus if you are tight on money at least go to legal aid tomorrow and get help…
Deb
November 19, 2012 at 2:21 am #59539feelinglostParticipantCindy,
How could that happen? Doesn’t sound like the attorney did much for you at all – can you do what Sharron suggested? after all it was just the mediation? does your attorney know the fragile state you are in right now? Is there a church nearby you can go sit in and tell God everything? (Catholic churches are usually open during the day and Jesus is present in the tabernacle if you don’t have a regular church you go to) Say this prayer over and over and ask the Blessed Mother to intercede for you – you really need some grace to get you through this right now.
Hail Mary Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy wound Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death Amen.
I am crying with you, you are not alone. God Bless you.
November 19, 2012 at 6:03 pm #59540sandyParticipantThinking of you today, Cindy. I am hoping you are getting hopeful news as you contact your attorney.
Be strong. We are all sending you our strength, in case you need extra reserves!
Sandy
November 19, 2012 at 9:02 pm #59541kmfMemberYes Cindy…..I hope you are ok and finding out something potentially positive. I am thinking about you…… Karen x
November 19, 2012 at 10:31 pm #59542972MemberI’m thinking about you too Cindy. My heart just breaks for you and all of us…
November 19, 2012 at 10:32 pm #59543lisakParticipantme too…
November 19, 2012 at 10:57 pm #59544napParticipantMe too
November 19, 2012 at 11:42 pm #59545lynng2ParticipantHugs Cindy, wishing you some good news.
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