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November 27, 2011 at 9:37 pm #4014pam-cParticipant
Happy Post Thanksgiving Ladies:
I wanted to share an aha moment if I may. My mother in law spent the wknd with us. As many of you know, I disclosed her son’s addiction to her, about one year ago. It was ultimately denied. It has been a very rock year of disclosure, juggling addictions with substance abuse, crazed rages and abusive behavior, followed by periods of sobriety and what seemed like progress. I can honestly say he is not the out of control basket case he was year ago, but the presence of going back there — i feel he always teeters and straddles recovery efforts if any, always dabbling in something…anyway.
My anger hurt and even moments of hatred has grown toward MIL over last year. Denial of problem, denial of my pain, etc, her being the one who raised such a f’d up man in the first place.
I know this is long… bear with me here. So I take MIL to breakfast after daughter’s ballet class. Where she complains:
1. her husband took 1st wife on date to Nutcracker with MIL kids without her knowing or attending with them. she was outraged
2. bought first wife property while married – MIL found out after husband’s death.
3. slept with 1st wife during marriage to her, possibley fathered another child.She was complaining how victimized she was. I just came out and said ” i really don’t want to hear it. your son has done that and then some–and then I used her famous line– I said well MIL, your H was a man. that’s just what they do. right?
she says: well Darryl (my h) is his father’s son. Oh yes he is.
Then I told her. Look, “I have been left for dead on beverly drive — without anyone to care or believe the horrors that were going on. My family 3000 miles away, and I could not even count on you to assist with a son who is lucky not to be in jail or dead or ridden with HIV. Why no thank you Pam, from you? I deserve major KUDOS for staying this far, to protect your grandchild whom I do not trust in his care alone for long periods of time, it is has been so painful it has almost killed me. And never an admission of wrong doing of your son from you to me– it would have helped. I am angry and hurt and my life matters. I am someone’s daughter, the mother of your grandchild and I have been shut away with addict and out of control destructive behavior without some much as — how can I help? what is going on with D? you didn’t believe a word I said.
she was silent. started talking about the weather. I said– id you just hear me– I expect a response.
she said how sorry she was (yeah right) for what her son had put me through. she said she wasn’t stupid and that she knew he had been doing a lot of bad in the marriage and told him many times to stop.
Well that’s really it. It felt good to share those emotions with her. But like the story line says– I thought it was so important that she understood my suffering— guess what? I am sure she still doesn’t. And I don’t care. It is not important. What is important? the life I want, for me and my daughter. I could care less what that enabling, sociopath MIL thinks as well. I has them both under my roof this wknd. they are so much alike.
IN addiction Thansgiving pretty much ruined by argument btw my H and his nephew. Just their family BS coming to head. My H is so immature he argued with his 21 yr old nephew– and then asked him to leave. holiday done.
enabling retard MIL sad with fat ass on couch all depressed. H filled prescription for valium to soothe his “holiday anxiety” and then has proceeded to slepp 16 hours a day. got up for movie and dinner yesterday. Both MIL and H, sleep all day depressed over holiday wknd. He is 43 yrs old, wtf? I mean really MIL? notice anything about your son? dinner last night, he drank 3 cocktails in addition to his valium. he “was on holday.”
tells me not “to worry” it is better than acting out. he is having a sabbatical before busy holiday season with business.
MIL says nothing– oh Darryls must tired, he works soooo hard.” He watched Jacqleen.
My H on occasion works really hard. has own business. has assistant 3 days per week. watched daughter 230 to 7pm m – f. where is this working to death thing? it is not that busy. it is all disgusting. all of it. fat gross narcissstic no admissions of wrongs, and no admission of how rude it is to argue in my house and ruin my Thanksgiving. I let H know just how wrong that was. he actually agreed, doesn’t want jacqleen thinking that’s what holidays are about. well then put your actions where your mouth is. i want to see it. parenting is modeling. not telling. enough said. I am just grossed out with this group of folk. grossed out.
November 27, 2011 at 10:06 pm #23115dianeParticipantOh Darlin’, I hear ya!
What we learn about our SA’s is that they come from something pretty awful, that’s called family. I’m amazed you got as much understanding as you did out of you MIL. Mine had created an emotionally incestuous relationship with my SA from the time her husband walked (she hated sex—hmmm. methinks i see a pattern?) And his dad was sick too.
They are all sick. YOu can’t expect anything from these people. Although there’s nothing unreasonable in your expectations, you just won’t get it. The question is whether you and your kids can get out with enough money to live. Then run sister run. The bright spot of my nightmare is that I never have to see my MIL again.November 28, 2011 at 1:49 am #23116napParticipantHi Pam,
Sorry they ruined your holiday and your daughters. They sound like two peas in a pod your MIL and h. I know you have a great job and seem very smart. I hope you are still seriously considering ending these toxic relationships. They seem really far gone and only have misery to offer. Are you still considering divorce or separation?
Love, NapNovember 28, 2011 at 3:05 am #23117readytoliveagainParticipantOh, Pam, so sorry you had such a horrible Thanksgiving. I’m thinking the bright spot in all of your misery must be that at least if they were sleeping, they couldn’t be interacting with you in their miserable ways. I think I would have gone to bed as soon as they woke up, each and every time. Many a Sunday has passed with me having a “backache” and needing to lie down with the heating pad on it simply because I could not be civil to my SA any longer. Couldn’t do it. I hate sleeping my life away, but sometimes you do what you just have to do to get through it.
Also, I’m thinking that at some point the multiple cocktails and the valium would prove to be fatal. And honestly, well, somethings are just too much to wish for outloud, aren’t they? 😉
November 28, 2011 at 3:43 am #23118ksondyParticipantI’ve yet to hear anyone tell me they have good in-laws. If they exist, I’d like to know where to find them. I’m sorry your holiday sucked.
Mixing alcohol and Valium can lead to a coma. I’m not sure if that means you should discourage or encourage it.
November 28, 2011 at 6:14 pm #23119pam-cParticipantDear Ladies
Oh what I wish for!!!! 🙂 but can’t say out loud. ONe can only hope. And yes NAP, the big D is still on the table. I have yet to find an attorney I can afford, and I have found that I get right up to the line, held papers in hand, and I have backed down. I just get absolutely frozen and terrified and feel like I am making some kind of mistake. But NAP, I do believe a day will come, when I can no longer, no matter what go forward. OR he disappears suddenly….:)
thank you for your love and support. and really means a lot.
November 28, 2011 at 6:21 pm #23120napParticipantHi Pam,
I’m thinking of you and happy to hear you are still considering divorce as an option. I can imagine to file is very difficult, in many ways I’m happy my h did that for me. I didn’t have a choice and he gave me the best gift he ever gave me.
Much love, NapNovember 28, 2011 at 6:36 pm #23121napParticipantPS. A friend of mine put hers on a credit card and another worked out a monthly payment plan. I think they have payment options to help those who need it. I told mine she is so good she needs to raise her rate ( she really does ); I told her to do it after my divorce was over. She laughed.
November 28, 2011 at 10:00 pm #23122pam-cParticipantthank Nap. I mean I know where there is a will there is a way. but for me, with what I have at stake, I feel I will get what I pay for. He is a S N A K E. you need crafty, to catch a snake. crafty costs $$. I want it done right. My other thought is to just walk to the court house and file myself. He would have to contest with what I plan on asking for. He would be forced to hire an attorney. then I would ask his attorney to mediate. who ever he chooses to save money. NAP, I want to pull the trigger once, with the right attorney. The one that I really want, is way out of my range. he would stomp on H. He has connections with every judge in city. H would not stand a chance. If I strike, THAT is what I want and need. H is crafty and manipulative, and very very effective liar in court. I am not.
November 29, 2011 at 4:51 am #23123readytoliveagainParticipantPam,
Have you consulted with any of the attorneys in town? In my area (SC), every attorney I called had a consultation fee, ranging from $75 to $150. Not applied to the retainer fee of $2500-3500. But, both of the ones I met with (one much better than the other) said that I would be able to ask for my SA to pay for my attorney’s fees and that a judge would definitely consider that. It would work as a rebate back to me, after the case was closed. So I had to have the money upfront for the retainer. When I indicated that was a problem, the great attorney told me that most women didn’t have the money, that they borrowed it from a family member. Now, I don’t have any one that I could ask for that money from, but I wanted to toss that idea to you in case you might. Also, know that both of the attorneys I met with know have me on their records so if he called to make an appointment with either of them, they wouldn’t accept him as a client (conflict of interest). So, if you can, scrape together whatever you need to and have a consultation with your super attorney. Make sure your SA can’t get him! And, that way too, if you needed a good attorney quickly, you’d already have established a relationship with him. When I called to make my appointments, the fantastic attorney had a waiting time of 3 weeks. The bad one, 1 day. I decided that even if I didn’t have the retainer money yet, it made sense to have the good one lined up for when/if I needed her.
Sending positive thoughts to you!
Paula
November 30, 2011 at 2:42 am #23124pam-cParticipantThank you for your advice Paula. well said. Bonus time comes in February 2012 at work. It could be a few thousand $$, that my H does not know about. I am starting my retainer fee fund.
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