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March 16, 2012 at 6:33 am #4491ksondyParticipant
Let’s start with the fact that I am not even SPEAKING to my husband (he refuses to acknowledge it too! Soooo whacky)
He has this cutsie yet highly unusual nickname for me. So he just randomly sent me a print screen photo of a FB page. In the subject he makes a comment that there is someone by that name on FB.
WTF?
So let’s guess what possible explanation he is going to give me as to HOW he happened across this FB page?
March 16, 2012 at 6:37 am #30949debincaParticipantKim – I don’t like defending SAH’s – but he could have just search for that name….maybe to see if you had a secret FB account (sounds like he is worried)…
March 16, 2012 at 12:29 pm #30950napParticipantHi Kim,
I agree with Deb. With all respect and love and I apologize if I’m wrong, however, I want to hear about Kim. I want to know Kim. I read all the things you see your h doing and you are wondering what each of them mean? Some could mean something, some not. It’s hard to tell however you seem to be so focused on him and not you. That worries me. Please write a post about Kim. Love and care about you, Nap.March 16, 2012 at 4:14 pm #30951kattMemberkim they are just stupid, you know in your gut. if hes anything like mine they just give them self up and think we are the stupid ones, for buying their own bull shit. the bottom line is what. time to do what you need to do nothing more or nothing less
much love kattMarch 16, 2012 at 4:39 pm #30952kmfMemberI think Nap is onto something here, Kim, though I am reluctant to say it.I spent SO MUCH TIME-YEARS TO BE EXACT, not wanting to talk about ANYTHING but what my H did and what an %#$@*&&%# he was. I, like so many of us, practically have a PhD in every kind of sicko diagnosis that might explain why one individual would hurt another in such vile ways. I, like you, am also still married legally. I like you, have some VERY compelling reasons why I feel I need to remain legally tied to him. The thing is, Kim, not wanting to break up your family could also just be an excuse not to address your own fears.( as my financial reasons may be too) As long as you don’t leave him and you keep all your focus on him and what he does and what he says…well, you don’t have to address too much about Kim..do you?? This is a very common behavior that most of us engage in and I am sure it is a necessary part of the process. I am not passing any judgment here, Kim, because I am not in any position to do so. I just would prefer not to see you waste years of your life in the same way I did. Believe me…your husband is going to continue to give you PLENTY to focus on if all you want to do is think about what he is doing? There is another option here, Kim and it can buy you some YOU time. You can be legally married but NOT emotionally married. You do not have to keep trying to make this marriage work. It is hard to do while under the same roof…and some might find it impossible…but it is one solution when you are not quite prepared to walk away. You don’t have to talk to him at all, about anything, except day to day stuff. You can detach from his recovery and what he does and doesn’t do.You can let him act out or drop dead or whatever he wants to do. And you can then take ALL that enormous energy you are putting into HIS LIFE and HIS CHOICES and you can begin to put it where it can actually do some good…in YOUR own life. You need your own therapist, Kim ( as you have discovered) and you need a plan just for youself. I believe you need to do this for 2 reasons. For your own mental and emotional health and because you cannot rely on your H NOT to do a runner at some point? You need to consider if it is better to be abandoned at 41 or 51? Why? Because, he is all over the map and I don’t think you know the half of what goes on in his head. He is constantly fantasizing about divorce and sexual freedom and that is really dangerous, Kim. Maybe the two of you will work things out but I think it would be wise to prepare yourself in case you don’t. He has already told you his fantasies, Kim. It doesn’t matter why he is on Facebook. It only matters that you are more concerned with what he does than you are about what you do? You have pretty much told him you are staying no matter what he does. Time to figure out how you can improve your own circumstances within that context, dear girl.
This is the old COSA message that we all hate and we all hate to apply to ourselves? Though we are not co-addicts and we are rightfully confused by what was done to us…the Cosa’s are right about one thing. Sooner or later…no matter how heinous the crimes our husbands have committed…we HAVE TO shift our focus off of their lives and on to our own. Because if we don’t…do we even HAVE lives in the true sense of the word or are we just inidviduals who spend our time on this planet simply reacting to the behavior of an other person…one who isn’t even sane most of the time? When you think about it that way….it does seem like a huge waste of the years of your life…doesn’t it?
With Love and Concern, karen xMarch 16, 2012 at 4:47 pm #30953kmfMemberMaybe you are headed downt his road already? Just read your post on the other thread. 🙂
March 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm #30954debincaParticipantKaren – thanks for your post. This is just what I needed to hear. I hope that Kim and I can get out of our mutual downward spiral and focus on ourselves – that is the good thing about COSA. I find it terribly difficult live in the same house as my SAH and sounds like Kim is having that same difficulty, too. It’s so hard to stay focused on US when they keep flailing in front of our eyes. Does anyone have any tips on how to do that without losing your mind?
I plan to go to the movies tonight with one of my kids, how about you, Kim? I think anything that we can do to focus on ourselves and not on them is a good thing. I know that I want to watch my SAH for any signs that he has seen the light – but that is like watching a boiling pot – it will drive you nuts in the end.
March 18, 2012 at 7:01 am #30955ksondyParticipantMy two 13 years olds had a sleepover with two other 13 year olds. I THINK they wereonly here 24 hours or so but it feels like I’ve last a week of my life!!!
I was going to respond to ypur post Karen then saw your second post and thought… well hell… I don’t remember what my last update was so I may very well be repeating myself!!!!
I have a ton of emotional reasons that would make it hard for me to leave. (like the fact that i do love the jerk) And I have questioned my own motives. Then I start ticking off the unignorable true pratical reasons why I stay. So I could be in denial about “some” the reasons I stay but not all.
I am Ms. Praticality. I don’t have a spontaneous or impulsive cell in my body. I wouldn’t call myself a downer or a tight wad (hahahah) but it’s definitley hard to get me to do anything without serious thought. Pratically speaking… if I walked out that door anytime soon.. domino’s will start falling is some potentially disasterous directions.
March 18, 2012 at 2:14 pm #30956dianeParticipantKim,
one of our earliest exchanges was me telling you what an organized thinker you were. (And I may have invited you to come and fix my unorganized closets–because everything’s really about me). I know you have some real fears associated with leaving. So why don’t you apply your wonderfully organized thinking skills to how to ‘detach’ and carve out some safe emotional space for you to be in that house with him. I am wondering here if the first step is to separate two main drivers—one is your emotional bond to the abusive man, and the other is the practical and pressing rationale that needs to keep the “dominos” standing.We all have that terrible first bond of emotion. It’s amazingly resilient. But how will you make it in that house if you keep trying to have a mutual relationship of love that isn’t possible? Can you get organized about this? Or will it always pull you down the rabbit hole?
love,
D.March 18, 2012 at 2:37 pm #30957kmfMemberDitto Kim to what Diane said. You cannot go on this way I don’t think. if you are going to stay you have to STOP loving the jerk and find a different way with short term goals and long term goals…the long term one being eventually getting what you deserve? I think this new therapist is really going to help you get yur ducks in a row. Now…I need someone good to help me. 😉 Karen xx
March 18, 2012 at 6:34 pm #30958ksondyParticipantFor some reason… this sex addiction crap has completely tested my otherwise awesome google skills. It took me almost a year of actively looking for an online support group before I found this place.
And other than short intensives… trying to find a therapist that actually specializes in treatment of the partners is like finding a needle in a haystack.
But I have taken everyone’s words to heart and have spent so much time looking this week. I have a lot in the past as well. Never with any luck.
I found a therapist about 15 min away. I sent her an email because I was floored by what I read on her website. I could have wept.
Here are some tidbits from her website…
“Perhaps you have worked with a therapist who specializes in sexual addiction. I hope that this was a positive experience for you. But I know that for many of you it was not. I hear from many partner’s who felt they were treated as an adjunct to their spouse’s treatment, with little or no encouragement for seeking treatment for their own pain. Or worse yet, made to feel as if they were the problem and isolated from information about his recovery. And while I wholeheartedly support participation in Twelve Step support groups like COSA, S-Anon and SLAA, these groups are based on a codependency model of treatment rather than a model that recognizes what you are going through for what it really is – trauma.If you are or have been in a relationship with a sex addict, you are in a world of pain. Pain is traumatic. Trauma is not best treated by a codependency model of therapy; trauma is best treated by a trauma model of therapy.
Working with a therapist who expects you to deal with codependency first is like being in a violent car wreck with blood gushing from your arteries. But instead of focusing on the blood, the emergency worker focuses on the traffic violation. Luckily emergency workers don’t do this. They don’t do this because they know that there is a natural and logical priority – take care of the blood first, traffic reports later. Your emotional emergency has a natural and logical priority as well – trauma first
So what is the answer for therapy? Start with first things first. Remember, trauma first. And find a trained therapist who understands that. Also, keep in mind that although many therapists who work with pornography and sex addiction are willing to work with partners, many of those therapists have significantly more training and experience in working with the addict and comparatively little in working with your needs.”
So I emailed her. Her response was: “I am aware that the cost of most of us trained to deal with the impact of sex addiction is difficult and that usually the partners often choose to sacrifice their own treatment so that your addict gets help, so I added a therapist to specifically do lower cost counseling with partners. We both use a trauma model.”
She is an out of network provider so I need to compare her fees to what will be reimbursable from my insurance. I should be able to find this out tomorrow. If I can make it financially work, she does a free initial consultation.
So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep all your fingers and toes crossed for me. It all seems too good to be true.March 18, 2012 at 6:36 pm #30959ksondyParticipantDiane,
I’d have a field day with your closets. Sadly, I’d probably enjoy it. My daughter is just like me too. When she was little (3, 4 years old) and we’d go to the doctors office, while waiting she’d pick up all the toys. I was at a friends house a year ago or so (so she was 12.) I was there for hours. Before we left my friend came to me and said, “Your daughter just cleaned my daughters disaster room and color organized my 12 bins of crafting ribbon. I gave her $5, can she come over again next week?’ lol Every time she goes to a friends, she comes home with money and a parent telling me a similar story. She LOVES to organize and now I think she has a scam going with it.
I definitely want to try to detach from one to facilitate the other. How successful I am at it remains to be seen. “Normally” I am also a compartmentalized thinker as well. So I can separate things. But I expect to fall and make many a failed attempt at first even if I am eventually successful. I’m counting on ya’ll to keep me sane in the meantime.
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