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February 25, 2014 at 4:06 pm #128344
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ParticipantThanks, Diane, for the clarification. Although I think your brand of Christianity is not unfortunately what is probably considered mainstream at least here in the U.S. So I think Omar is fair if he is skeptical of even mainstream religion. I think having the label or association of Christianity in the US has become a big sign post meaning “fundamentalist only; others keep out” to many people.
But it is important to note that there are people like you and Bev and other friends I know. I think if Christianity was associated with open minds, arms, and hearts, it might not be such an issue. Very sad.
February 25, 2014 at 4:52 pm #128345joann
ParticipantAhhh….The Poisonwood Bible. Right up there in my all time favorites along with Gone With The Wind and Cross Creek. All of them about strong, courageous women.
Thanks for reminding me of it Bev, it’s time to read it again. ~ JoAnn
February 25, 2014 at 7:52 pm #128346diane
ParticipantYes, it is a great book! Tough but great!
February 25, 2014 at 8:40 pm #128347meg
ParticipantSorry Diane sloppy was my way of saying at 11:00 pm at night – they didn’t give a fuck anymore who and how badly they destroyed – you said it much better:)
February 25, 2014 at 8:42 pm #128348meg
ParticipantWell they never cared about that – you watch APTAS purloin Omar’s perpetration model next – csats won’t wanna touch that!
February 25, 2014 at 10:17 pm #128349beenthere
ParticipantMinwalla seems very cautious as he articulates his stance for the trauma model, both as an element in the SA treatment and the partner treatment. It is essentially an activist stance, informed by his background as a sexologist first, and his seeking to honor the human rights of all people, marginalized partners, sexual minorities, LGBTQ, etc. in order to address the profound damage that male sexual privileging does to the whole world. I have a sense that his approach can be felt to be antithetical to many “mainstream” interpretations, but at the same time, in order to get traction for his research, he has to “play nice” with some people he wouldn’t ordinarily align with . I have noted since first looking at his website, for example, that he no longer has a “resources” page that recommends other people’s books. I think he is trying to draw a bright line between respecting certain aspects of traditional Carnes model for SAs, and challenging Carnes et al to move forward (which I don’t see Carnes has done at all). He is putting his money where his mouth is. Don’t legitimize someone whose stance you don’t believe in. It dilutes your message, and delegitimizes the work you are trying to do. If you don’t believe in your heart of hearts in the truth of the trauma conceptualization, then your “techniques” will be ineffective and harmful. That’s where the therapists who give lip service to partner trauma while still holding on to their co-dependency, foo god only knows what cranes inspired BS, are falling down. We see through this. Take a side, goddammit! Man UP!
March 8, 2014 at 6:22 am #128350barbra
MemberBeen there after my experiences this week so far I agree 100 percent
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