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  • #7303
    beenthere
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    I don’t know if this will reach anyone. I have been on this board for awhile but don’t know exactly how to reach out for help. I’m creating a topic hoping someone will help me or at least understand what is happening to me.

    Dday was in September (not the first, but most comprehensive). Treatment and sobriety have been ongoing and accountable and is going as well as we could expect.

    About a year ago, I was diagnosed with some sort of autoimmune problem (Dr. says Lupus) which causes a numb er of symptoms. This is very disabling but I have been mostly ok as I go through the medical system to treat various problems. Recently I was put on Methotrexate for my lupus and immediately experienced ringing in my ear. Didn’t go away. Was put on prednisone which made me totally loopy. Now I am so anxious and depressed and exhausted I can barely function.

    For awhile my anger motivated me to do the things and get the help I needed to get through. But now it’s as though I have just shut down.

    Has anyone out there had to deal with serious physical and mental conditions and how do you do it, how are you doing? I am 60 and feel so old and damaged.

    Does anyone relate to this, having to deal with SA and personal health problems. This is overwhelming.

    #89469
    diane
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    HI Noco,
    In her book Barbara STeffens has a list of health problems associated with partners of SA’s.
    As a hypothryroid person, my numbers went crazy and I’m still trying to get myself back to normal. It’s the stress. It just wreaks havoc on us. I’m 57.
    A number of women here use anti-depressants to help combat the symptoms that arise after dday. Please ask your dr. about that.
    I also changed my diet to try and support thyroid function and other aspects of my health. I just want you to know you aren’t crazy, there are health consequences to this kind of trauma and ongoing stress. Have your Dr. run a thyroid health blood test to see if that is part of your troulbe. It is not uncommon at all. And I’m sure B. Steffens also listed autoimmune things too. Do you have her book?

    #89470
    972
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    I have no idea about any particular health problems but I do know without doubt that you cannot come out of this unscathed. The stress alone would knock anyone’s health out of whack.

    Noco, does your doctor know your situation( Involving SA)? If not, tell him now.

    #89471
    juniemoon
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    Hi Noco. Yes I know just how you are feeling. Like you I have (had) the misfortune of an sa in my life. And like you am dealing with an autoimmune disorder – psoriatic arthritis. I will be 58 soon so we do have some things in common.

    Having to deal with both of these things at the same time is very, very difficult I know. Almost too much at times. The hallmark of autoimmune diseases is pain and fatigue, the fatigue being overwhelming at times, like nothing I’ve ever experienced before, it is hard to describe to anyone whose never been through it. And for someone who has always been hardworking and energetic it is a blow to your self esteem, I feel worthless at times, I have to remind myself
    its the disease, not me, that I’m not lazy.

    Its good that your doctor at least diagnosed you accurately. I went around in circles for about fifteen years, knowing something was wrong, doctor after doctor, tests after tests, diagnosed with fibromyalgia?, anemia, etc, suspecting myself that it was something autoimmune but not knowing how to confirm it.

    Fast forward to last summer, after the final four years with sa, knowing about his escalating porn use, knowing pretty much for sure he was cheating but after five joint replacement surgeries I had during those years too weak and in pain to do much about it, he finally left me and my son penniless.

    I didn’t know it at the time, but during that extreme stress, I was in the middle of a major psoriatic flareup, the kind I have is inverse, in the folds of the skin, the most painful kind, ferociously itchy and painful, during an extremely hot and long summer, the sweating making it even more miserable, it was torture.

    On the days when I don’t have much energy I will pick three two or even one thing I feel I can do or must get done. If the job will take longer than ten minutes, I break the task up into ten minute chunks, sit down for ten minutes between chunks. When the task or task gets done, I give myself a little reward, a coffee and muffin or listen to some music I’ve been looking forward to or play with my cat, you get the idea.

    Methotrexate is also used to treat psoriatic arthritis although since I was recently diagnoses I havent actually yet begun any medication yet. Everyone’s medication regime is different. Autoimmune disorders are made worse by stress, how much worse stress is there dealing with an sa? Not much I would sa. Glad he is gone. Today I emailed my lawyer and asked her to proceed with divorce.

    Noco, learn all you can about your disorder and join on line support groups. I still have a lot to learn about mine. My family doctor said out of his 15 years of practice I am his first patient with PsA because it is not very common.

    Noco, pm me anytime. Please do not call yourself old and damaged. You still have much life to live and a lot to offer. Love, junie,.

    #89472
    beenthere
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    Thanks for your replies. It helps to know and sort through things. I have been checked for everything, including parathyroid and hypothyroid, so I feel like diagnosis is honing in on accurate.

    I do believe that I was having symptoms that were brushed off as depression for many years, and now that the extent of SA gaslighting is clear, it is my mantra to daily say “you are not crazy, you have been made sick.” Thank you thank you all. I will get through this somehow. I do not want to go back on antidepressants, but feel I may have to.

    Yes, it does feel crazy to have to be taken care of by the person who was willing to see me spiral into a deep depression rather than face his demon. So, I feel that while the cold hard truth is better than the lies, it does not get any easier.

    I will keep checking in.

    #89473
    gail
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    Hi Noco, I am on antidepressants, wont be able to function without it. Will chat again have to prepare for a court hearing tomorrow with SA Yuk Yuk Yuk, so anxious

    #89474
    allcat62
    Member

    Noco I’m so sorry you feel so lousy. I would suggest antidepressants to help with the mental health issues. I’ve been on them for almost 4 years.
    With regard to the Lupus… were you gradually introduced to the steroids? Did they play around with the dosage when you suffered from the side effects? I know a number of people with auto immune diseases and they have all had to titrate their medication.
    Secondly, I’m not sure how you are affected by the Lupus. My understanding is that it manifests in many different ways. A close friend of mine was having spasms and numbness in her face and she has had botox injections since. That has really helped her symptom management as well as having other obvious benefits (she is over 70 and her skin is perfect).
    Are you seem an Immunologist? Catherine xox

    #89475
    kmf
    Member

    Yes…I would try to see an immunologist. It is WELL documented that chronic stress depresses the immune system and partners of SA’s do seem to develop lots of health problems. I developed breast cancer 2 years into a 4 year stint on Borneo, with my husband banging half of continental Asia in my bed every time I got on a plane. I didn’t know but I now feel the body knows what the mind cannot grasp. Prior to all of this I got the flu once a year and that was it.
    These immune disorders are hard to pin donw and hard to treat but one thing is certain. You HAVE to reduce your stress to be well. Stress is taken very seriously by doctors in Asia. They have a very different and more holistic approach to the body than doctors in North America.
    Post anytime you need to? Someone usually knows something about almost everything. Karen xx

    #89476
    teri
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    Noco,

    I am dealing with health problems and SA. I had to have my gall bladder removed 2 months after my most recent discovery, I have chronic heart problems that started after my first discovery (of an “emotional affair”). I have migraines and I probably have an undiagnosed dysautonomia which leads to racing heart, passing out, interstitial cystitis (it’s thought), and other symptoms (my kids are thought to have it, too).

    I’m pretty sure all of mine would not be nearly as bad if it weren’t for dr. evil’s sa and abuse. And dealing with physical as well as mental issues makes this doubly hard and makes you feel even more vulnerable. I worry about health insurance when the divorce is final and being able to pay medical bills.

    It’s very important to do little things to bring you joy and laughter each day, to reach out to people and to not put too much pressure on yourself. And keep believing in yourself and your experience. You know yourself better than anyone.

    I’m sorry for all that you are going through. We are here for you. Glad you posted.

    #89477
    deb
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    Hi Noco, I don’t get to post much but had to respond to your post. I have been on both Methotrexate and Prednisone. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and I think you should keep a log of your symptoms and let your Dr know.
    They may want to tweek your dosages or your meds. Also Depression is very common in autoimmune disorders but with what we have to deal with (SA) it’s pretty much normal.. An anti depressant helps a person think clearer especially while under stress. I also take an antidepressant.
    Juniemoon, Psoriatic arthritis is very common in my family.. I have met a lot of people with it. What do you take for it?

    #89478
    trish
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    Noco, I am on blood pressure meds that have controlled my BP for many years. After dday in November, my BP sky rocketed to near stroke level. It was at that time my dr put me on an antidepressant and gave me xanax to get through those first months. The Xanax saved me. I ended up trying 2 different antidepressants and I think the one I am on now is helping. I have never been a depressed person, but I have to be on it now – not forever. This level of stress we are enduring is so high and it can absolutely wreak havic on our health. You must tell your doctor what you are going through with your sah. He can not treat you properly without that knowledge. Hang in there. I am 53 – lots of older sisters here!

    #89479
    patsy15
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    Dear Novo, I have had my colon removed for an autoimmune disease called ulcerative colitis; I also have Krohn’s disease and fibromyalgia. As they may have told you, the problem for people like us (lupus is in the same family) is an immune system which is TOO active and will attack ourselves. The relationship with stress is absolutely PROVEN. No matter how hard this is, you must reduce the stress in your life. You may have to figure out whether it’s worse or better to stay with your SAH or leave, but at least you are fully entitles to social security disability. If you worked during your life, you can get SSI. If you were a housewife, you can get SSD. You are also old enough now to receive other aid…

    Your husband must help maintain you whether you are together, separated or divorced. So the money, while not a lot, should be enough to manage.

    As everyone eel has pointed out, antidepressants and anxiolitics (for anxiety) can make your quality of life better. NEVER beat yourself up for needing to take it easy and rest! If you have insurance, your doc can prescribe massage and even whirlpool. In most places there are support groups–and some will even come to you if you reach out.

    The worst thing is that these illnesses are incurable and can make you feel old and hopeless. This is NOT true!!!! I have had this stuff since I was 19 years old, but have managed to live e full life. With your doc’s help, make an exercise and diet plan to help you feel your best, and then really work to stick to it. Give yourself every single way you can think of, a chance to laugh! Research also shows laughter can actually help people go into remission.

    If there is a sister who lives near you, it would be wonderful if you and she could meet and spend time together sometimes. But most of all, be kind to yourself; you are NOT ALONE. Many of us suffer from these chronic conditions, and it gets easier to cope if you never, ever, blame yourself for feeling tired or choosing to rest when you red to…even if it’s a few weeks at a time. That being said, the best money I ever spent was on a treadmill. I use it when I can, and it has helped me so much.

    Much much love to you!!!

    #89480
    ali
    Member

    Noco, I have had escalating health problems as the sa cycle has escalated. It’s not rocket science. They have damaged us both psychologically and physically.
    You may need an anti-depressant for now. It’s not a sign of weakness, but can be a survival weapon for the sisters.
    The stress eats away our immune system, so no wonder that you have an immune system problem. I hope that your continue to work with your doctors on the mix of different medication that can help to alleviate your symptoms.

    #89481
    juniemoon
    Participant

    Deb, sorry to hear about the rheumatoid arthritis. I hope you are able to manage it well and it is not causing you too much pain. In answer to your question, I was recently diagnosed and my appointment with the rheumatologist is May 27 so for now, just otc pain killers and Voltaren gel and Protopic ointment for the psoriasis. Since I am on benefits from the government, they will only start me out with the cheapest, probably the methotrexate, or arthrotec and only will pay for the biologics, such as Enbrel, if all else fails. My family doctor does not like the idea of methotrexate, he feels it is too harsh, as it is also used for cancer patients, that has me a bit worried about it too. One of the side effects is hair loss, and because my hair is already thinning and falling out, that also worries me.

    Yes psoriatic arthritis DOES run in families, my daughter and son, both in their thirties, are beginning to develop symptoms, it sucks I know. I am on prozac also but I was on it before I knew about the PsA. Like these autoimmune disorders aren’t enough to deal with, we have to deal with the damn sas too. Sheesh!

    #89482
    deb
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    Junie the mtx dose you are taking in much much smaller than what cancer patients get. Also there is an injectable MTX that seems to not cause as many side effects… You usually have to fail one before they will m to another. Good luck and take care…

    #89483
    beenthere
    Participant

    Thanks for all your replies. I have been so anxious and down I haven’t been able to even walk out to my computer room in the past week. Just to reach out and get your support is great. I decided to go on an antidepressant after the prednisone whacked me out. I will start today on something. Tinnitus is still here. dealing the best I can. But it may be permanent. Thanks for all your support.

    #89484
    workingitoutjrc
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    Hi Noco. Yes, I have MS. It’s a progressive disease that takes me out of life occasionally for a few weeks when I am completely bed ridden and helpless. My charming sa uses these opportunities to set up as many sex meetings as possible while he is supposed to be watching our children. Prior to this, my symptoms were treated as anxiety and depression, exaserbated by his gaslighting. I totally understand your situation, it’s a terrible one to be in. You just have to resolve yourself to finding other help other than your sa. They are not reliable. Keep track of your symptoms and don’t be afraid to badger your doctors with them. Sometimes you just have to try different combinations until they find the right one for you.

    #89485
    carriellen
    Participant

    Good question. I am so so sorry for your pain.
    Just weeks after catching my husband, my weight got down to 105 pounds. Three months after D-Day, I had a complete mental break down, and spend that entire year in a state of shock…literally lost a year of my life to shock.
    My body anesthetized itself to the point where I was able to go in for an ankle tattoo (which I really like) but I got a tattoo and never felt a thing. We are in trauma!!!!
    Then to top it all off I have developed 3 breast tumors which now have to monitored every year to see if/when they metastasize.
    I am so saddened by all of your stories. The SA should have all the health issues, the prostitutes should be the ones to carry the burdens of this shit they choose to participate in. (In this phase of my life I have NO sympathy for the whores)
    I am a believer in anti-depressants to help us for a time…they saved my life, use them if you need them, until your life evens out a bit.

    #89486
    kanice
    Participant

    Noco,
    Yes, our trauma and stress wreaks havoc. I have several stress-related syndromes that I won’t bore you with here. Recently, I learned that stress hormones actually penetrate every cell of your body! No wonder we are not healthy.

    With that in mind, consider an anti-depressant. I would not be able to function without mine. Even a small dose helps me tremendously. If it is not effective after a while, have the doctor increase the dosage or try another one. I finally found the best one after trying 3 or 4 that my doctor prescribed over time.

    I hope you can find some support within your community, too.
    We are with you, here, too,
    Kandice

    Kandice

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