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  • #2903
    joann
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    Dating experiences, tips and advice.

    #9479
    lylo
    Participant

    It is really tempting to run away and find someone with whom you do not have this awful history so you never have to think about it again. Just put it in a box and put it on a shelf.

    #9480
    lylo
    Participant

    Oops I didn’t edit…just put it in a box…

    #9481
    joann
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    Hi Lylo,

    I edited your post for you, I’m not sure if members have that capability, I’ll check

    #9482
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Beware the man who claims to want to ‘support’ you during a difficult time in your life (unless he has been a super friend for many years). My experience has been that predators will disguise the pointed stick they care with promises of help. Tempting to take them up on it but watch out. Keep your eyes wide open.

    #9483
    katt
    Member

    The man I’m with was a super friend we were friends for 5 years before getting together and I never had a clue. Now I see I was part of his fantasy world I was his acting out.We were both married at the time and I never saw it. I thought he was safe,I thought I was safe. We were just friends!!!!!

    #9484
    diane
    Participant

    So here’s my situation,
    I am now living as a single person.
    I have 3 men in my age range who seem to love to spend time with me. They cook for me. Take me places. Go for walks. Talk for hours about all kinds of things. They aren’t gay. They seek me out.
    BUT, none of them seems to want to pursue a romantic connection. Two of the three would be romantically interesting to me.
    Question:
    Is it odd that these men want to be around me so much without a romantic interest? What is going on here? I’m just really a woman with limited experience.

    #9485
    marie
    Participant

    Diane,
    Do the men in question know that you consider yourself to be single? Or is it possible that they know, and yet think it hasn’t been long enough away from your husband? How single do you think of yourself? You sounds like a totally awesome woman, and my best guess is that they could be picking up some subtle clues/signals about availability…and maybe, even if you consider yourself very single, you were married so long you have forgotten how to give those signals off:) I know that is where I would be!
    Marie

    #9486
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Diane, i was thinking all the same things as Marie…that perhaps they are just not “getting” that you consider yourself single and available. Or perhaps they’re just not making THEIR feelings apparent to you. I used to have the same issue before I got together with my husband….I had lots of guy friends but they didn’t pursue me romantically and it was very frustrating! That’s probably why I nearly fell over when my husband made it clear he wanted to be more than friends.

    Re. the question of if I find it tempting to start over with someone else? Sort of. I find it tempting to walk away and wash myself clean of all the dirtiness, be single for awhile, and then start over with someone with none of these issues. But I know if we were to split up that i would need to be single for some time in order to have any hope of a healthy relationship with anyone else. I would be terrified of picking the same kind of guy with the same problem and not seeing it soon enough again.

    #9487
    lylo
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    also Diane… I think real men of substance would have to be wary of women in our position. How long is long enough to be sure that you won’t want to return to your marriage. What happens when true forgiveness takes place? Will you simply be at peace and forge ahead alone, or will you then have feelings of love for the one you have forgiven?

    #9488
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’m just going to throw out there that these guys know exactly that where things stand in terms of your being single and available but why take things any further when you seem happy to have things as they are. Perhaps, if you want a romantic liaison, you need to make yourself less available to these guys. Then, you’ll see who actually wants to do the work as opposed to them feeling all comfy cozy.

    #9489
    nap
    Participant

    Diane,
    How do you know that none of the men want a romantic connection? Im excited for you that you are going out now as a single woman…must be flattering.

    #9490
    diane
    Participant

    Thanks everyone, for interesting input.
    Marian I appreciate your “clear away the clutter” approach very much. NAP, there have lots of opportunities for touching and developing the romantic connection. I think “they’re just not that into me”, but realize I’m really good company. And I think maybe I need to be more selectively available!

    #9491
    flora
    Participant

    Diane, Aptly stated yourself. They might just not be that in to you, and maybe not right now. I remember just how I got in the positiion, by trying too hard to make a relationship work. And we all know we do not want this scenario to happen twice in our lifetime. In other words, if it is not working with these guys, don;t push it. If it happens it happens. you will know. the better question is what do you think of these men? Are you romantically interested in any of them? What do you want and what are you lookign for. you don’t need their approval, find what you want.

    If not find some men you would go after.

    #9492
    flora
    Participant

    Diane,
    One more thought. In my first marriage I was not desired by my husband, but he was a good provider. My second husband (SA) i am totally desired but does not help out or provide. After my first marriage i tried to find eveything my frist husband was not, forgetting to find again all the good things he was. So what i found was a man who was attracted to me, i was attracted to him, he is goodlooking, and he likes birthdays and holidays and was affectionate. So I left what I felt was a bad relationship to what I thought was a better one (three years after divorce) based on what I was lacking in the first one. I guess what I am saying is you want the whole big picture. You want the kitchen sink with this next man. you want it all. I figured that i could do without the income if he loved me. But a lack of income and work drive is a syptom of another issue which i know now. So i am just trying to share some of my story, in hopes that I can save you from the mistake I made. I wanted so badly to be in a relationship with someone who cared for me and loved me that I missed the big red flags, passed on things that should have been a deal breaker and really in the end I am paying for it. I hope you find the best! You deserve it!

    #9493
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Flora,

    I have only just signed up to this site and reading your last response to Diane is scarily similar to my situation. I left my unhappy sexless marriage for the ‘man of my dreams’ ignoring so many warning signs. Although we are not married I am now living with a sex and love addict and all the emotional and financial problems that go with it. I can’t help thinking how stupid I have been….I don’t regret divorcing my husband, the relationship was clearly not right but the emotional ‘hold’ my new partner has over me scares me and I feel as though I’m going insane 🙁

    #9494
    ann
    Member

    Hi Flora, Welcome to the Sisterhood. You aren’t going insane. If you were crazy, you wouldn’t be so distressed – traumatized. The typical SA (and most of them are typical SAs) enjoys what he is doing and often tries to make you think that you are nuts – for not understanding their “needs.” He’s the one creating the insanity, not you. Please browse through this site and try to make an appointment with a good therapist, one who specializes in trauma, PTS and addiction. All of us on this site are going through, or have gone through, the same situation and it is horrible. We want to help in any way possible so just keep asking questions. I’ll bet you $1,000.00 than there will be at least one woman here that experienced the exact situation you are trying to cope with now. Take care of yourself first.

    #9495
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Diane,
    I am wondering how much these 3 men know about your relationship/marriage with a SA? How much do they know about the hurt, the emotional pain, the trauma? Maybe they sense how vulnerable you still are. Perhaps you are subconsciously distant, maybe you are sending out signals they are not sure how to decipher. If they truly care about you, I am sure the last thing any of them wish to do is hurt you. Probably they are handling you like a china doll
    Also, are they aware what a SA entails; ie. that’s it’s not so much to with sex but rather a coping mechanism for the addict?
    Maybe they feel afraid to push you away if they made any romantic/sexual advances? Could be that they are afraid that you would compare them to your PA?

    Just some of my, once again, jumbled thoughts.

    #9496
    pam-c
    Participant

    Dear Diane,

    Well, I see a real bright side here. First of all, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad! I mean if you are attracted to 2 out of 3 men that want to spend time with you, WOW. That is amazing. What fun – You are doing great!
    A male freind of mine told me something. He said, the fact that a man will even talk to you, and have conversation with you means one thing, there is an attraction at some level. Otherwise they just don’t bother. Prob true. Diane, I can’t imagine these men taking you places and making plans if they were not “into you” on some level. I just don’t think men open their wallets or time if they aren’t thinking of other possibilities. don’t sell yourself short! Perhaps they are as scared as you are. I think Mortified made many good points in her last post. If these freinds know some of the drama that you have been through, perhaps they are afraid to make a move. Perhaps, they need a bigger hint that you are interested too. dunno. please contintue to have fun with it. sometimes the mystery and guessing is part of the whole fun of it all – keeps life spicy and interesting, in a good way (not the SA way) .

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