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i just have to say that i’m super pissed off ever since reading about joann’s surgery. i’m literally shaking with anger. i know i need to avoid DW right now because i might just fucking pop one in his fucking face. if larry was in front of me right now i’m not sure he would make it out of the room intact.
it is just so pathetic that their little escapades lead to us picking up the pieces and dealing with the consequences. a fucking lifetime of them. i personally don’t think there is any other compulsive behaviour that is so hard on the partners.
fuck them and fuck that. i’m sorry joann. i would fucking rip him apart if he was here.
It’s Anger Week in the ‘hood.
What they do is a violation to us. We are not brought up in Western society to be denigrated in this way. It does make me wonder about women in societies that are brought up to expect a lifetime of being one of a harem or to expect that their husbands will frequent prostitutes or have mistresses. Women who aren’t educated or are otherwise financially dependent. Women who don’t have access to adequate health care. Women who can’t leave their husbands if they ever want to see their children.
I am wondering if there is a world of suppressed womanly rage out there.
I’ve met those wonen up close and personal teri. Some of them have even shared my body lotion. 🙁 Funny enough, they tend to do what we do….they share their problems with other women? Sometimes the hookers even work together with a friend of their choosing….less scary to go into a room with a strange man with your girlfriend with you I guess. For the respectable women (wive and such) it is ALL about the other women in their lives- their mothers, sisters, cousins and friends. When you go to a restaurant in Indonesia, all the men sit at one end of the table and all the women sit at the other. They do not expect their husbands to be their friends, they hope that they will be good fathers, providers and take care of the family. They don’t expect to have a soul mate. There are good men in all countries and there are bad. I suppose many men in those cultures do not regard it as bad to cheat and have girlfriends. I can tell you this though, ALL women in ALL cultures hate to have their husbands do what they do. Infidelity creates pain and chaos in EVERY culture. It is the universal language.
If we could get a break from taking care of everybody in our own families, we could rise up and take over. There are more of us females, you know (except maybe in China).
A strange thing just occured to me and it’s really metaphysical/new age but it was such a clear thing when I read Teri’s:
“Wondering if there is a world of suppressed womanly rage out there”.
I saw “mother earth”, and agonizing over the suffering of her daughters through time; then saw her cyclones, hurricanes, tornados, avalanches, volcanoes and tsunamis. Like mother nature raging. I know, I know there are so many scientific explanations, AND both men and women are killed in the natural disasters, but if she had rage that is what it would look like to me.
Not scientific, but poetic.
There is a lot to be addressed in that concept. When world cultures become more balanced male/female, so much will change I can hardly imagine but I like trying.
how I wish for the lives of woman, worldwide, to be safe, satisfying and supported – after all we/they nurture the babes that will be our world’s leaders – so much is at stake for everyone
Interesting, Lynn. Mother’s Nature’s fury. Acts of God, too, by the way.
The medical problems and indignities JoAnn and the rest of us suffer because of the way our men have behaved connects us to a sisterhood that is not restricted by time or location. Like Karen said, woman worldwide find comfort and support with other woman. It’s unfortunate, though, that change is so slow in regard to gender issues. Maybe if we had more testosterone, we’d have done something about it a long time ago.
i’m glad you have so much compassion, joann. not for larry though, for everyone else in your life. 🙂
Thinking about this makes me sick.
Just a year ago, I had so much hope still. I believed most people were good and I felt so alive.
It’s like I hit that life point when you realize death will be a sweet release from this place, and I realized I will always be subjected to evil that had never occurred to me before.
I’m not just grieving the loss of my husband, I am grieving the loss of my innocence…and the innocence of my sisters, for what? Men to continue to “spread the seed.” Ugh…disenchanted,
I know you are having a tough time right now. When I start to get overwhelmed be the evil that is out there, I remind myself of the good. Of the friends I can call, of the kindnesses people have shown me, of my sisters here who respond and help me no matter what craziness is going on…There is far too much ugliness in the world, but there is beauty and grace, too. I think we need to acknowledge both but not necessarily all the time.
You have lost so much. We all have. But we have also gained a worldwide network of women who understand. And I feel like I have a new depth of understanding about the human condition, a compassion for those who are suffering much more profound that what I knew before. These are gifts hard won that no one can take from me and are a sure antidote for evil.
In Shanghai there are 4 times more young women looking for husbands than there are eligible (read unmarried) men. what do you think that adds up to???????
In China, the younger women HATE their mother-in-law; there is constant war between generations of women. The daughter’s mother has ONE agenda–get her married before 30, or she likely will have to go live in a temple and spend her life cleaning or doing factory work.
all of this is built around the fact that the only joy a woman can expect is her grandchild–and then really only if she herself had a son, or the MIL of her daughter is nice enough to share.
In some VERY small ways this is changing, but there was a common saying among the young women with whom I worked who considered themselves to be “office ladies” when referring to their own private parts–they nicknamed them their “meal tickets.”
today, my heart aches for joann
and for every woman hurt by inequity, domination, power imbalance, sexual predators, cheaters… liars… deceivers…
Dear disEnchanted,
I know how you feel. I never suspected my h because I would never have acted the way he did. My worldview has changed. What to do?? I am struggling with life and wtf we are doing here. Finding this site is my first glimmer of hope.Thanks, Liza.
Patsy, thank for sharing that about women in China. Karen offered some insight as well on another thread…
I hate women are supposed to interested in celebrity gossip and clothes and makeup. All that is fine in it’s place, but our superficial society just blinds us to what is happening to our sisters all around the world and right under our noses.I think Anderson Cooper said something really profound in Boston last week. He said how hard it is for him to leave places like Boston that have experienced tragedy because the people there at that time are real. They care about their neighbors and community, they reach out to one another, and they talk about important things. I wish that was something we could bottle and sell.
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