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October 3, 2012 at 7:04 pm #5754
pam-c
ParticipantHello all. I wanted to share something that exsah called me about re: his current “state” of addiction and his therapist. He obviously still thinks I care. I mean I do, but not like when I lived with him. I no longer feel responsible for him.
So it goes like this. I had a car problem last night. Me and Jacqleen were waiting for a tow truck. I was totally stressed, and worried. Called for her dad to come pick her up, as it looked like I would not have transportation to take her to school.
No answer, no nuttin. Anyway, the car issue was resolved by an angel of a security guard who resolved it and Jacqleen and I go home. And I’m like wtf? I had tried to reach him to help us for hour and a half.
Well he finally calls back, and “he was at a meeting, coudn;’t take calls.” He is driving. And slurring his words. Obviously under the influence. I tell him its noticeable, he should not be driving. And why was he going to meetings if he’s just going to use afterward> makes no sense.
Anyway, I went to bed. Just so disappointed, that yes indeed, this was my child’s father.
Well here’s the clincher. Of course he calls at work today guilt ridden. Why? I said no criticisms no nothing. We are not together. His decisions do not directly impact me anymore.
Well get this . A whole completely selfish diatribe, (I hardly listened) but it went like what a great Dad he is, his daughter plays piano because of him, he’s a good provider. AND ACCORDING TO HIS THERAPIST HE IS NEITHER SEX ADDICT OR OTHER TYPE OF ADDICT. HE JUST LIKES CERTAIN KINDS OF SEX. AND HIS ALOCHOL USE IS MINIMAL. SO HE CAN ENJOY IT TO RELAX WHEN HE IS STRESSED. LAST NIGHT HE HAD 2 DRINKS AND VALIUM. THAT’S WHY HE WAS SLURRING. HE IS TIRED OF FEELING BAD ABOUT HIMSELF AND DISAPPOINTING ME. HE COULD TELL I WAS ASHAMED OF HIM.
I am ashamed of how he chooses to live his life. No doubt. But that’s my business. I have no interest in discussing with him.
Another wonderful therapist. I mean really? This guy actually believes this stuff. He actually believes it, as his life goes down the drain, and he continues to be an addict. As well as an abuser. I mean, you should have heard him going on and on explaining about what he likes sexually. I told him to stop, he was not respecting my boudnaries as I have no need to hear about his desires. He continued on, and told me listen to he’s ready to stop. Absolutely no acknowledgment of any pain it may be causing me. I put the phone down, let him ramble. And carry on in my office. then pick up the phone every once in awile and say “I see.
We ended the conversation with a “I am glad you had this reveleation btw you and yourself. That’s great. have a good day.
I had absolutely no reaction. What a guild ridden, addicted, denying, lying, projectile vomit inducing man. Oooh, if only the bottoming process would hurry up and come. Let him go down to where he needs to go. Even if it means death. It least it would be a resolve to the behavior.
Incredible.
October 3, 2012 at 7:22 pm #54448march
ParticipantDearest Pam, he is an ass. Next time, hang up.
October 3, 2012 at 7:27 pm #54449pam-c
ParticipantI should March. unbelievable, I feel compelled to listen. you know, like trash tv, jerry springer and all. It’s so vile, yet i don’t change the channel. i get sucked into the trash tv vacuum, talking to him. it is free entertainment in a way. that’s how ridic it is.
October 3, 2012 at 7:39 pm #54450nap
ParticipantPam,
File. Do not interact with him in any way shape or form unless it’s regarding your daughter, then keep it to business only. He thinks he has the right to make you listen to his nonsense and demand you do not hang up??? F him. No more dinners, no more shopping trips for the kitchen, no more nonsense phone calls. You’re separated and you don’t have to do any of that shit with him anymore. If you can find a friend to call if the car breaks down, don’t call him. My
opinion. Keep things crystal clear.
~NapOctober 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm #54451victoria-l
MemberPam, whenever the Jerry Springer show is on tv, I’m hit with the fact my life has actually become a Jerry Springer episode. How insane is that, even some of the trashy topics and people on there are more tame than this life with a SA. I grew up in a good family, middle class, expensive private girls school, always a good person. I can’t believe my life has now turned into Jerry Springer!
October 3, 2012 at 8:37 pm #54452march
ParticipantI come from a long line of trailer park dwellers. My Aunt Ora and Uncle Edgar had a teacup Chihuahua who smoked cigarettes and chewed Juicy Fruit. My paternal grandmother dipped snuff. My maternal grandfather thought he was Jesus. I tried to clean up on my end and be a normal middle-class citizen. And yet, and yet…
October 3, 2012 at 8:53 pm #54453lisak
Participantpam,
it goes on, doesn’t it! set whatever boundaries you need with him, then keep them. if he isn’t respecting those, then politely remove yourself. you don’t need any more of this!
you don’t owe him anything.
and yes, i agree with nap, call other, more loving and supportive people when you need help.
so sad that it comes to this. i’m sorry.
October 3, 2012 at 8:57 pm #54454diane
ParticipantMarch your life is a movie. Jodie Foster should play you.
October 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm #54455972
MemberI bet that trailer park bunch was honest! Once you claim to be Jesus and your dog has a pack a day habit there isn`t much left to hide….You gotta give ’em credit 🙂
October 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm #54456nap
ParticipantWho would play March’s xh?
October 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm #54457march
ParticipantHa! I LOVE Jodie Foster. She needs to stay away from that loser Mel Gibson, though.
October 3, 2012 at 9:34 pm #54458pam-c
ParticipantMarch,
What fun characters to play in a movie! I think at this point, I choose the trailer. Like Bev said, at least their honest. And actually sound like fun.
October 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm #54459pam-c
ParticipantAnd NAP agreed. the entitlement he has, to my time, I am still allowing it. I need to just cut the guy off. and get filed on the rest of the junk.
ay and amen. right on, for keeping things clear . he is obviously confused on what the end of the relationship is.
October 3, 2012 at 10:13 pm #54460kmf
MemberHe wants to ramble on about what he likes sexually…while you are working?? He doesn’t half have a sense of entitlement does he? I’m not sure I believe his therapist said those things. On the other hand…the things they come out with do not inspire confidence.
I know it is really hard for you Pam, because you have to co-parent with him and your finances are entertwined BUT he should not be dumping any of his personal crap on you anymore. He doesn’t seem capable of any kind of civilized behavior for any lenght of time and seems to use EVERY possible interaction to try to rope you back in. He is exhausting and a drainer.
Karen xxOctober 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm #54461teri
ParticipantYou need to start recording your phone calls. Seriously sounds like great evidence if you need to protect your daughter.
October 4, 2012 at 1:48 am #54462march
ParticipantOh, Teri, you’re so good! Absolutely record those calls.
October 4, 2012 at 2:33 am #54463janet
ParticipantThank God he didn’t kill anyone on the road. Hopefully he’ll hit a tree first. Unfreakingbelievable . . . so sorry, Pam.
Yes, definitely record the phone calls.
October 4, 2012 at 3:30 am #54464lynng2
ParticipantRecord the calls. And get AAA.
October 4, 2012 at 5:24 am #54465nap
ParticipantHahahaha!
October 4, 2012 at 5:53 am #54466debinca
ParticipantYour SAH and Teri’s are vying for the “deepest denial of the month” award. Is he serious? Let’s just hope he doesn’t drive you daughter in his drunken/drugged up stupors.
Deb
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