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December 10, 2011 at 4:25 pm #4077lexieParticipant
When I woke up this morning, I got up and the first thing I heard was the sound of a car and I looked out the window and saw my husband driving off. no good-bye. no nothing.
I came down and made myself some breakfast and opened up my email and found two emails, from him; one to me and one to the boys. Here it is… please notice how apologetic he is; how deeply deeply regretful that he has hurt me so badly, that I would make him leave his home. BTW, he very rarely, until recently called me by my real name. It was usually, his nickname for me, “Wawa.”
Dear Laurel,
That wasn’t a “stunt”. That is the e-mail you write to every day, the one I use for everything EXCEPT my “acting out”, which I have not been doing most of the year now. If you had been able to read it later, you would have found absolutely nothing. It was my complacency that left it on your tabpad and a coincidence that the web site wasn’t responding later.
But all that hardly matters. If it hadn’t been those things, it would have been something else. It’s obviously not the way for either of us to live, so now we’ll have the break from each other that we got close to having months ago. And that you’ve wanted all along. I realize it’s not going to happen very soon, but I hope that eventually, we’ll get along better this way. I’m terrified of loneliness and isolation but I’ll take it day by day.
I’ve no inclination to be condescending to you, or angry towards you or snide with you. I’m very sad about it all, whether it shows in obvious ways or not. It’s appropriate that you endeavor to manage your business alone. Whether you take me up on it or not, I’m willing to help you become self-managing. I wish you wouldn’t see it as condescension. I greatly admire your determination to take LBI to the next level. I’ve been telling people that you’re working very hard.
I will have to make more than one trip for stuff this weekend and I will always call you before I arrive so that you know I’m coming. I don’t want to surprise you or intrude on you.
Now, I must write to the boys.***
(my response)
Yes, yes of course, addicts always try to minimize and shift blame and say stupid things, like if it hadn’t been that, it would’ve been something else… The reason WHY, shimon, is that you do not understand what constitutes acting out and what doesn’t. Complacency of this nature– leaving any reminder of your acting out, IS PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. All of your extremely intimate, highly inappropriate emails with Michalcunt were done on your “every day” email. You remember her, right? Your former fuck-buddy-turned-intimate-erotic-confidant; the one who you told recently was STILL gorgeous; the one who you told that you were seeing Sara later, because you “DESERVED IT?” The one who you confided in your every detail of your erotic conquests? Can you even begin to imagine how immensely hurtful that all is? she was in our home? she came to see Cale perform? how could you? your arrogance knows no bounds. Your correspondences with moniquecunt were on fakebook, which is through your “every day” email. and that is just what i know… I’m sure that this is only a sampling of inappropriate behavior on your every day email, but what does it matter? WHY WERE YOU EVEN LOOKING AT ANY EMAIL ON ***MY*** TAB???
When was the last time you told me that I was still gorgeous (without provocation) or even told me that I was adorable, sexy, hot, or that you WANTED me or looked at me with love and lust in your eyes? Why am I left to discover over and over and over and after BEGGING you to tell me the truth, that not only did you not want me, but you wanted everyone who wasn’t me– for years and years and years??? I have never felt so entirely humiliated, crushed and wholly unwanted.
Passive-aggressive, narcissistic, sick people, do not KNOW that they are this way. It is part of their intrinsic make up. If you had the power to know this, then you would’ve had the power to have empathized with me, as I did you, and you could’ve never ever done any of the things to me that you did.
furthermore, your email is STILL FUCKING LOCKED UP. I wanted to die when the very first thing I saw coming up on my virginal, innocent tab was YOUR FUCKED UP HORDE— it was like you just had to rub my face in the fact that you can have all of the fucking secrets you want from me and there isn’t a thing i can do about it. Why is optonline good enough for me, but not you? why couldn’t you just have g-mail like the rest of the population? why, why, why??? Nina and Jonathan share an email as do Laura and Denny. I can’t even SEE YOUR EMAIL. I was never even interested, UNTIL July 5th 2006, the night you deemed it necessary to leave your smut shit OPEN on MY lap top? the night i read that you had told another woman that my breasts are “small.”
i should’ve made you leave right then and there… but at the time, of course, with an autistic 11-yr-old and a massive-handful-ADHD-16-yr old, that was nigh impossible. Besides I BELIEVED you when you said that it was “just” chat and that you had not met any of them in person and that you would fucking stop!
I BELIEVED YOU, BECAUSE I COULD NOT IMAGINE THAT MY DARLING HUSBAND OF 18 YEARS WOULD EVER LIE TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but you didn’t stop, did you? no, it only escalated as I begged you to get help, go for career counseling, get a REAL hobby, join a club, a group, take me out. find a REAL way to make more money… take me away, as you had promised… and most of all, treat me with a modicum of respect. and even that, you could not do.
YOU are the untrustworthy one. it does not matter if we were not having sex. that was your choice; your decision; i would’ve worked with you on that; but you never tried. you made all sorts of excuses, but that doesn’t give you the right to do what you did to me. and then NOT figure out how you were going to support your family. remember us? the guy at the bank yesterday was shaking his head. he told me that i was very attractive. he didn’t get it. and he hadn’t even heard how funny i am or taste my incredible chocolate cake, or know how i can kick butt and do the impossible by getting our son into the poshest, most incredible therapeutic boarding school, that everyone said would be impossible.
nothing is impossible, if you want it badly enough.
People with nothing to hide; hide nothing. The skanks that I contacted ALL HAD IT COMING TO THEM. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. I do not and would not write anything to any of your appropriate contacts and you know that. The fact that you not only insinuated that, but actually SAID THAT i might do that, indicates that after twenty-fucking-five years, you do not know me at all.
Remember when you wanted to have sex with me at the botanical garden? remember? I don’t even think that we were married yet. I would’ve done that. I’m about 100 times more adventurous than you ever were. You never asked. you never bothered to find out. you never wanted to know how you could be a better lover to me. you didn’t want to know…
but even worse. you did not even want to touch me. you didn’t look at me. you didn’t want me. you were often irritable, depressed, half-dead, falling asleep, unemployed, delusional in your thinking over how much it costs to live here, and what you were capable of doing.
I TRIED TO BUILD YOU UP THE BEST WAY I KNEW HOW. I was often telling you, how brilliant you are and how I thought that you would be fantastic doing social work, or a managerial position, because I had always thought that you were very fair and had a winning way with people. I had told you this over and over, and then— what did you do with that information? on the heels of a romantic trip to Las Vegas, a surprise birthday for 20 at your favorite restaurant and a trip to St. Thomas that if I hadn’t said or done anything, would NEVER have happened???
you decided single-handedly to step outside of our marriage vows and have as many women as would have you, even stalk at least one woman, who obviously was not in the least bit interested in you. you put your fucking job in jeopardy and for that I want to rip your sorry head off!
You abandoned me, also lonely and depressed with our situation (including the difficult, difficult time raising out children) to fend for myself.
What kind of a monster would do that? what kind of REAL man just abandons, not only his wife, but his two children, in favor of some skanky, fat, stinky nudist, with her fingers up her blubbery twat???
So, I take it all back. You are not brilliant. You are not terrific with people. but you DO make a fantastic janitor, except for your desk, upstairs in the home we have shared for the last 20.5 years.
i heard you vacuuming, i have no idea what or where.
when you return, to pick up your stuff…
i want every fucking wire that is not connected to anything removed from that cesspool up there. and then I would very much appreciate it if you could vacuum the entire area, until the carpeting is as clean and new looking as when it was installed. i have been begging you for years to do this, as I believe that
the immense amounts of dust and dirt that have collected back there, for the last 10 years are a health hazard and probably are the cause for your eczema.Who is going to make you go to the doctor now, Shimon? who is going to remind you to get your skin cancer scraped off or put your spinach pie in the oven so its ready when you get home? who is going to make you laugh like i used to do??? remember? remember the laughter?
well, you fucking managed to kill that too. you killed everything that was special and wonderful about me and us… you killed it with your arrogance, selfishness and hubris. You have such contempt for Donald Trump, but in actuality, you are exactly the same as him; just don’t have the money, the drive or the ambition, but otherwise, you are identical. Maybe that’s why you hate him so much. he reminds you of you.
I tried shimon. i tried my best to work with what was presented to me, which was a depressed, often disdainful, arrogant, shell of a man who didn’t seem to care if I was alive or dead or home or with another man or anything… and that is not why i married you. i married you, because i could not imagine living the rest of my life without you in it, for even one day… i loved you insanely and would’ve gone to the ends of the earth for you and to you…
i wanted to go away with you… i did for so many years… but you managed to systematically shut down all receptors… well, almost all… i am traumatized beyond belief, humiliated and trashed and quite frankly, i would be the happiest woman on earth if i never had to look at your ugly face ever again. BTW, I had always thought (for many, many years) that you were exceedingly handsome, sexy, loving, and had enough integrity for 10 men. When I use to go to that exercise class in kisco, I sometimes heard other women complain about their sorry excuse for husbands and thought how lucky I was… it boggled my mind, how it was not the same for them.
now, i get it.
December 10, 2011 at 4:43 pm #23988floraParticipantHi Lexie,
I like how he said that he has behaved “most” of the past year. In other words he still has stuff to hide…hence the locked up email.I think your h and my h are hatched from the same egg. When i recalled finding the hooker call card in his wallet, i said thats it, no more. And you said almost identical to what your h said, that i wanted this all along (him gone, yes) and that if it were not that, it would have been something else…yes…and wa wa wa how we are not happy with them.
Damn straight i’m not. But when i wnet through it, just as you are going through it, i felt guilty about kicking his ass to the curb. I needed than final straw to cut the cord. I never looked back.
Did he try his very best to make it my fault, with his pa behavior, of course. But over time, i have learned that its not my fault, and that SA is an ass and a loser. And no he is not a gift to me and dear to me; and never treated me as such.. unless it was in his best interest too….only if it beneftied him.Sorry Lexie. Be strong. Set a goal date for yourself. Something like i will try this for a month. I will not let him in for a month. If you and he are meant to be, than you will be. Love could survive whatever is handed its way, however sometimes i don;t think what we have is love at all.
But if in time you want to get back together, there is always the possiblity. But not right now. You deserve your space and time, and i encourage you to set a date to hold on to.
Love,
FloraDecember 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm #23989napParticipantLexie,
You go girl! Keep opening that can of “whoop ass” and you’re going to be just fine! I think your email to him was superb; now really can his ass and never talk or email him again. You’re done!Love, Nap
December 10, 2011 at 5:22 pm #23990anniemMemberI am so sorry, Lexie. In many ways your h’s email sounds like something my h could have written. Especially this part:
“I’ve no inclination to be condescending to you, or angry towards you or snide with you. I’m very sad about it all, whether it shows in obvious ways or not.”
I really don’t know what is wrong with these guys. Why they never really learned normal human interaction and can only be robotic and weird, and have their little skank confidantes who get to hear their litany of what is wrong with *us.* Why not just leave us and have at it, if that’s what they want? I don’t remember if your h ever at any time admitted he had a problem? He really sounds like a piece of work, Lexie. You are so well rid of him, but I know there is still so much pain for you. They’re our best friends, our confidantes, the love of our lives, and then the world turns upside down on its head. But you are headed in the right direction, and I really admire your strength.
Love,
Annie xoxoDecember 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm #23991dianeParticipantHi Lexie,
yeah, it’s all shit.
So here’s an idea. Why don’t you see how it is to live without him in the house. YOu might like it.
love you,
D.December 10, 2011 at 6:44 pm #23992lexieParticipantThank you so much everyone!
Maybe I should go out and get a Christmas tree? A little lonely, asymmetrical, scrappy tree that no one else wants… For those who had the interest, patience and TIME to read my blog– haha! you’ll get it.
Growing up, I just wanted to be like everyone else. I wanted a normal family. And normal families celebrated Christmas. To me, it was the logical progression from Halloween, Thanksgiving, Xmas… a celebration of the winter solstice. Hanging lights as a symbol that even though the sun was low, there was the magic of twinkling little lights to look forward to.
but, nooooooooooo… no trees allowed around here. no lights. no fucking joy! Agnostic husband will not EVER allow it, but its okay for him to insert his dick inside another woman’s twat.
I’ve heard back from him… You’re gonna love it! (eyes rolling)
Thanks for your long and detailed letter. I would normally not include it in my reply but that seems to annoy you.
I honestly don’t have a response to you, certainly not one that’s any different from what I’ve said before, and certainly not in the same exorbitant detail.
I thought I had a lot of integrity too, but things changed in a way I never got a handle on, and I didn’t deal with those changes correctly. For that, I’m extremely sorry. Much more sorry than you can imagine. But I’m just not going to play the blame game.
Moving out hasn’t really hit me yet. When we moved out of Madison Green, you were with me and I didn’t say goodbye to 7R in any way; we were rushed. But you were with me, so it didn’t matter. This is vastly different of course. I feel similar to my first day in New York but MUCH less excited.
I’ll call you later on and figure out when to come by and finish cleaning up. It’s likely to be Sunday, mid-morning or so, or whenever suits you. I do believe though, that everything that’s connected there now still needs to be. But I’ll take away the VCR, etc. I’ll also take the paper recycling.
Looking further ahead, when the dumpster next parks at Lowell, I will absolutely clean up the garage, which is terribly intimidating.
Seems the internet is a bit of a problem in this house; it’s coming from upstairs but the tenant that manages it has no clue about it. I hope I don’t have to go shopping for my own service. So if you send me a message and I don’t seem to acknowledge it, that’s why. (I’m at the library.)
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Blame game?
game?
loser.
guess what? I’m not gonna even reply to this or any other of his lame emails, unless it has something to do with the children, or a bill that wasn’t paid, or something of that nature.
maybe it’ll hit him that he’s never coming back here. he’s lost the only woman he ever claimed to love, the respect of his children and respect for himself, but he can’t even go there… so, it becomes a “game.”
December 10, 2011 at 6:47 pm #23993lexieParticipantPS: no internet in the house? hmmmm… maybe God is trying to send him a message? ya think?
December 10, 2011 at 7:10 pm #23994lynngParticipantNo internet!!! LOL, perfect, just perfect.
Yeah, don’t reply, at all. I keep wishing I could maintain that. I”m trying.
Sorry I didn’t see your comment about possibly seein gyou while in NY. We landed at 5:30 Wed. Taped from 11-3 Thursday and flew out at 6pm Thursday. I could not come see you when we were in NY. All together, we had 1.5 free hours, and used that to get dinner the night before the taping. Didn’t get to do any sightseeing at all.
December 10, 2011 at 7:20 pm #23995cindy1111ParticipantLexie,
I am so supporting you in thoughts right now. I feel your anger and can identify with it in my bones. I know though, how sad you are. It hurts and it doesnt seem possible. You are doing the right thing to stand up for yourself. I hope that you can spend some time resting and just being gentle with yourself. Let some time pass, let your raw self just steep for awhile. He does not want to play the Blame game. Well, really? how convienient for him. Again, we will not be able to figure out crazy!. It is not wrong of you to want and need and desire to be nurtured and loved in a compassionate understanding and humble way. It is not wrong that you need to be adored by your spouse. You are no longer making excuses for his lack of being able to provide these things to you. You are no longer second guessing yourself!!!I am proud of you for honoring yourself! Stay strong for you Lexie!!!!!
{{{{}}}}}December 10, 2011 at 7:39 pm #23996lexieParticipantI so want to answer him, but instead of giving him the pleasure of a response I’ll say it here.
I accept full blame for believing in you and wanting you and conning you into loving me, which you obviously couldn’t sustain, a marriage, you obviously never really wanted and children who cramped your style and a home in the burbs that we should’ve moved out of at least 17 years ago, when we realized that we could not really afford it and that the community didn’t fit many of our needs and desires. And I accept full blame for not being the type of woman who would go after a man who was obviously not interested in her, and went out of his way to make himself as unattractive as possible for her… so he could say, that he doesn’t know which happened first??? my loss of interest in him, or his in me? who knows which came first???
does it fucking matter? could it have changed?
YES!!!!!!!!! OF COURSE IT COULD HAVE!!!!!!! AT ANY POINT…
even after august 2…(although, extremely remote) If you had said that you loved and needed me and wanted to change and become the man you were when you married me… and that you would move heaven and earth to be a good husband and provider for me and our family and then showed me that you were willing to do whatever it took, even if it meant working 18 hours a day, on getting another job, school, therapy…
but no. there was NEVER ANY HOPE FOR YOU, BECAUSE you are a being incapable of believing in or understanding a miracle or even believing that anything that lives inside your heart and soul is possible.
I guess its really difficult if one has no heart or soul.
it must be…
December 10, 2011 at 7:48 pm #23997napParticipantLexie, get the tree.
December 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm #23998zumbagirlMemberLexie,
How dare you “play the blame game!” Ugh, he makes me want to break my computer!!! I’m so sorry, and have been thinking of you all day. You have so much integrity, strength and courage. You will feel better, and you will be at peace–I have no doubt. Now go get the tree!!!!
Much love!!
JulieDecember 10, 2011 at 8:32 pm #23999floraParticipantHey lexie, Get the TREE. Do whatever your heart desires. Get two trees.
The first thing i did when my h moved out was do everything he would not let me do. One was to get a second dog the other was to paint a ugley paneled wall in our living room, i hated it, so i painted it.He also said he would clean up his shit our of the garage, clean up the leaves in the yard in the fall, and shovel the snow in the winter. It took a year to finally clean up his crap, he “started” cleaning the leaves last year (october) and never finished….and he never ONCE showed up to shovel the snow. Even the it was the snowiest crazy season that i have seen here ever, not even when we got two feet. Not once.
December 10, 2011 at 8:48 pm #24000napParticipantThey are full of false promises.
December 10, 2011 at 8:49 pm #24001napParticipantUnless it suits them.
December 11, 2011 at 1:13 am #24002marchParticipantLexie, go get yourself a PINK tree. And put up LOTS AND LOTS of lights. Lights fucking everywhere! And play Elvis Christmas music really loud….Well, at least that’s what I plan to do next year, when mine is out of the house. But do your own version. Now.
December 11, 2011 at 1:34 am #24003annabeginsParticipantLexie
there are no words to describe how sorry I am that you are going through all of this. I am completely dumbfounded by your sah. I cannot imagine how it must be for you. And I cannot put into words how amazed I am that you have gotten through all of this bc I feel like I want to kill him. Do not know how you did not. It take a truly gracious and strong woman to not have given everything you have been through
with all of that said, your life is now beginning. A life of peace that you have not known with him
I am going to keep you in my thoughts and prayers that you will now have a life filled with the love and joy you deserve
stay strong. You are unbelievably strong. Don’t forget itDecember 11, 2011 at 4:36 am #24004bonniebParticipantDear Lexie.
I am so sad for you, for me and for all of us on here. Who have no choice but to be strong, even when we feel like crumbling. Who have understood, forgiven, accepted, compromised and loved, only to be betrayed and abandoned by the one person whose nurturing and love we craved most. Im mad that we have to just keep on being strong all the damn time! I just want an iota of the empathy and kindness I have shown my sah….Please get your christmas tree. XoxoDecember 12, 2011 at 1:58 am #24005laurenbutterflyParticipantGet yourself a really gorgeous big Christmas tree and decorate it with your sons (if they want to), listening to Christmas music and drinking hot chocolate with marshmallows.
You are feeling your anger and your sadness – good for you. I send you love and strength.
LaurenbutterflyDecember 12, 2011 at 8:45 am #24006ksondyParticipantHe’s got internet problems. Karma.
I say get one of those gawdy huge lit up plastic manger scenes and stick it in the front yard. 🙂
I could say so much to all of that but one thing stuck out the most to me. Where you wrote to him, “you killed everything that was special and wonderful about me.”
He did no such thing. You still ARE special and wonderful. Ask anyone here.
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