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  • #9790
    Anonymous
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    Really feeling lost and hurt at the moment. I am finding out more and more that my SA is passive aggressive. Always makes me feel like I am at fault. Today was particularly bad. I was having an awful day at work, and all he could do was send me a text saying “not surprised”. All I wanted was for him to call. He just said he was at work and didn’t have the time. He had to travel and hour to pick his friend up.. surely he could have called me then?? He did eventually call.. to tell me to F off.. actually he screamed it.

    Feel mentally battered, emotionally wrecked. He thinks its the state of my mind that is making me behave like this. I felt like a nuisance contacting him in the first place. He said he was unable to communicate.

    I was doing ok. Then contact began again and now I am a complete mess.

    #9791
    nap
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    Hi MMP,
    What he thinks doesnt matter. My husband used to do the same exact thing to me . If you want to talk about how bad work is, call a friend, dont call him. Hes pulling you into his dance when you expect something from him. If you can, dont dance with him. Hes only going to step on your toes. Instead be neutral, dont get pulled in. Just like you had to distance yourself from your mother, you have to emotionally distance yourself from him. To protect yourself.

    #9792
    Anonymous
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    You’re right NAP. I think its all to do with feeling wanted. I was there for him through everything, took time away from others who needed me to make sure he was OK. I guess it doesn’t work the other way round. I have never been able to rely on him emotionally, because it always gets turned round to be about him.

    It took me years to get away from my mums control. I feel like I’ve got myself into something worse. I feel vulnerable again, and I don’t want to. I have to “shut down” my emotions and move myself mentally away from him. Just so hard though, when I still have feelings for him.

    #9793
    nap
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    Hi MMP,
    Please know that you dont have to shut down your emotions. Just dont put any emotional energy toward him, put the energy into yourself. Youre worth it. My mother is a malignant narcissist. As a child, teenager, young adult she would actually punish me when I needed her the most. My oldest brother was the “golden child” and still is. At age 51, when she wouldnt let me move in with her after my home burned down (she lives alone in a 3 bedroom house) and told me (i was traumatized) i could stay in a motel, I finally put two and two together and figured her out. Since then, Im polite but I dont give my power away to her like I used to. She used my fire as narcissitic supply for all her friends and told them “she offered me a place to stay but I said no”. She made my misfortune about her. Its very painful and I know you must have had alot of pain from your mother. You are smart to realize that you had to protect yourself from her as I do mine. You may need to do the same with your boyfriend until he gets the help he needs. If he chooses not to get help, its more of the same abuse. Please say “no thanks” and spend your energy on happy and good things and people. Lifes too short.

    #9794
    lylo
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    Sorry, NAP and MMP…takes a long time to realize that the ones that you are conditioned to look to for love and support are sometimes toxic. Feels disloyal somehow to finally see it clearly. You can still love and honor them, but not look for what you will never get. We’ll sort all that out in heaven 🙂

    I had so much anger at my husband about our strange lack of physical intimacy that manifested itself all over the place and his therapist said that women often (subconsciously) dislplay anger when they are simply trying to get someone to ENGAGE. When your stuff is ignored or you get that PA response that is basically dodging engagement, we resort to rage to shake it loose and get a conversation started. Sadly, it seldom works.

    #9795
    Anonymous
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    wow….another common thread they all have! I thought just my husband was the passive aggressive. When he starts to manipulate I put my hands up in a “time out mode facing him. to ward off the crap he is projecting on me and to keep my perimeter safe. I explained that to him and maybe it will sink in some day and get him to catch himself.

    I am amazed by this thread.

    #9796
    Anonymous
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    NAP, My mouth literally fell open when you wrote about your mother. My marriage fell apart and I needed to go “home” to mother where I thought I would be safe. I packed up and left London for Manchester, taking my two little ones with me. The family home is owned by all the family, not just my mother. My brother was living there also with her. I turned up in such a state, really needing to be cuddled. She spent the next six months trying to drive me crazy, turning my brother against me. It was when she started on my daughter that I packed everything and went back to London. I had a nervous breakdown, not from my divorce, but from her. One by one, my siblings have realised what she is like. We are now very close, but none of us talk to my mother.

    Do you think we repeat our history? How can we not recognise the signs? Maybe as Lylo says, we are conditioned to love our SAs, and it takes strength then to decondition ourselves. The only way we can do that is to cut the contact. They are so clever at pulling you in, just to spit you back out when you weaken.

    I once said to my mother that it doesn’t matter what I say/do/achieve, she will never acknowledge I have done well. She simply looked away. Hurtful yes, but it also made me see that I didn’t need her anymore.

    Baby steps then it has to be. Breaking the cycle, and it is a cycle because I really feel we nuture the way our SAs treat us by staying, by forgiving, by turning a blind eye. Its when we say enough, and they start to do something about it, we really see them for what they are. Its like a drug addict withdrawing. We get the blame, the irritation, the passive agressiveness and so on.

    I don’t know what the answer is. I just know that there has to be something better than this.

    #9797
    nap
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    Hi MMP,
    I think, unfortunately, what our mothers taught us was that we can accept alot of abuse. Also, I learned ” learned helplessness”, because no matter what I did, she punished me and critized me, so just learned to be helpless. I think I had enuf of my fathers wisdom to pull through as best I could. He was the exact opposite of my mother. He was a real gem bless his soul-he saved me. Now I know the truth, and life goes on, its a gift I dont want to waste. I hope you see your life as a gift not to be wasted too. 🙂

    #9798
    debora
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    My husband is very PA. Quite heavily on the passive side. The worse he feels the more passive he gets until he reaches a point where he’ll get really mad. His aggression really comes out sideways though, through addictions to work, alcohol, spending, sex and indirect anger.

    Now that I know what this is and have learned the lingo and can identify his behaviors and his deflect, avoid, minimize, blameshift tools, I immediately challenge him now.

    If we’re having a conversation and I ask him a question that he doesn’t answer directly, I just name the strategy he’s using. “Minimizing. Now answer the question.” And because he knows that I’ve learned to identify the game…..and he can’t deny it now because of his counseling, he’ll usually give it up and answer me.

    It is maddening to have to babysit a 58 year old man who answers like an 8 year old. But my counselor said that is where they are stuck, at the age of their wounding. I believe that and have had compassion for that but a lot of other people are also hurt and don’t behave in this manner. It is not an excuse.

    #9799
    lylo
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    No Debora, it isn’t an excuse, but it is a coping mechanism that has worked for him to keep from having to deal with anything uncomfortable. Sounds like you have found a great tool to re-condition him!

    #9800
    nap
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    Hi Lylo,
    Thank you for the information about how woman may use anger to engage their husbands. In the early years of my marriage, when my husband was so disconnected and preoccupied (now I know why), and passive, there was alot of fighting. I think I was just trying to connect with him. Makes sense now, then it was confusing.

    #9801
    flora
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    This was an old post by therapist Jael, not sure where she is. But it is what being with a passive aggressive is like.

    “He wants YOU to set the boundaries for HIM that he doesn’t have and should have.

    He resents YOU for controlling him after he’s asked you for your controlling.

    He sets up impossible situations where YOU are responsible for making difficult decisions he doesn’t want to make.

    He somehow feels that with the right woman, right job, right environment…he would be in control of his impulses.

    He needs severe consequences to learn anything.

    He needs to be in a lot of pain to understand yours. Tough Love.”

    This has been my life with my SA. The more I learn the more I think he is passive aggressive, but not in an obvious way, I will just never get what I want. Wether it is for him to get a job, help around the house, share his recovery, going to meetings, everything is am uphill battle and I am assured to only ever get about 10-25% of the 100% I ask for. It will never happen. This was such I good statement from her, and makes so much sense. Just thought I would share it all with you again as a reminder.

    #9802
    Anonymous
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    “He sets up impossible situations where YOU are responsible for making difficult decisions he doesn’t want to make.”

    This one was so very true with mine when it came to the whole topic of divorce. For years and years he had would pick fights just for the sake of being PA it seemed, and he would throw out the “D” word, but it was always him saying to me “Do you want a divorce?” – he needed it to be me and i called him on that about a million times, telling him if he wanted a divorce, don’t try to put it on me and make me somehow the bad guy – grow a pair and tell me you want a divorce. But he never grew a pair, so I had to, and he’s not the least bit broken up that I’ve gone.

    #9803
    Anonymous
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    “He somehow feels that with the right woman, right job, right environment…he would be in control of his impulses.”

    Then I pray he meets that one woman who would make him want to recover. Bittersweet as I’m still hoping it would’ve been me…

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