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    cbslife
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    Somehow and for some strange reason, I decided to try to talk to him about the sentencing coming up on Thursday. He had told me before that he had hired his SA friend to be his new attorney for the sentencing, that it would cost $500 and that he was going to get a copy of the sentencing report a week before the sentencing date. So, I asked him if he had fired his attorney yet. He said that he hadn’t yet and then went off on a tyrant about how he called his attorney 3 times last week and it took forever for the guy to call him back. And when his attorney did call him back Loran asked him if they were going to get together a meet one more time before the sentencing and his attorney said he didn’t see any reason to do so. Loran then asked him if he should be getting letters together from people to vouch for his character and his attorney said it wouldn’t hurt. And then Loran said well I don’t have much time now to do that. That made Loran angry.
    So I changed the subject and asked him about the pre-sentencing report and that status of it. He said he didn’t know, said he should have had it by now, but nobody’s telling him anything (he’s getting more pissed now and I’m trying to stay calm). I said “well, doesn’t that investigation include talking to family, friends, past employers and people like that?” He goes “Yeah, I guess, I don’t know, and they haven’t talked to anyone. I said how do you know that and he said “well, they haven’t talked to you”. I said “how do you know if they talked to me or not?”. That hit a big nerve. He threw his hands up in the air and said “OK, fine.” and walked into the living room, we were standing in the kitchen. I said “what’s wrong, why can’t we talk about this calmly, what are you getting all upset about? You need to calm down.” He said “oh, your tone of voice when you said how do I know if anyone talked to you and I assumed that if they had talked to my wife that she would tell me.” I said “For Pete’s sake, Loran, do you realize how many years I’ve put up with your tone of voice. But I have a ‘tone of voice’ one time and it’s it some kind of big deal. That falls under the category of you can dish it out but you can’t take it. Seriously, I can’t believe we can’t stand here and have an adult conversation about a serious issue without you getting all uptight and acting like your feelings are hurt. Geez, I can’t even talk to you anymore.” He gets an all serious look on his face and goes “Uh huh. That’s right.”
    Then I asked whether his best friend knows that his sentencing hearing is Thursday and all I got is a quick “yeah he knows”. Then I asked about his friend up the hill from us that he’s known for years and they are like family to him and he’s been working on their water well pump the last couple days, do they know? He said they know but they don’t know anything about us. Meaning he hasn’t told them that I want a separation. I said, “you should tell them the whole truth, you should let them know because they love you and care about you and they may be able to help you out or know someone who can as far as a place to live. Then he goes off on another tangent about how he can’t buy a place because we refinanced this place. About how he doesn’t want to rent a place. How he wanted that place up on Blue Ridge Mountain. I just stopped him and said he needs to pull from some inner strength and really try hard to help himself. That place on Blue Ridge could still be a possibility. Then he started getting angry telling me how he can’t even qualify for a loan, I stopped him again and said I know all of that you don’t need to repeat it. What I’m trying to tell you is that you should contact the realtor and have him ask his client if he would be willing to do something such as a lease to own. You never know how long a property has been listed, the people might be ready to just have the place occupied and generating some income for them. Those properties sometimes take a long time to sell because it takes a certain type of individual to live up in the mountains. That’s what I mean about trying to help yourself. Don’t throw in the towel and feel all sorry for yourself when you haven’t exhausted all your efforts.
    I told him he should talk to his friends about his situation as they might be able to help. You never know. Then he got that mean look again and then he looked down and said all his friends told him he should have divorced me long ago. Okay . . . I know that he only said that to hurt me, but it didn’t work. I know because he wouldn’t look at me when he said it and then he made a face like “what can I say?”. He’s getting very predictable or I’m just getting good at reading him. Then he asked if he could sit down that his back was hurting. I said, please, don’t let me keep you and I walked down the hall to the bathroom. I fully expected him to have gone to bed when I got out, but he was still in the chair watching TV. We watched the end of a NASCAR race we previously recorded. He was all happy, laughing at the commercials, sometimes looking at the dogs sleeping on the floor and saying how sweet they look. I mean total turn around in behavior.

    (I typed this quickly, so sorry for the lack of punctuation!)

    Just had to write this down and get it out of my system before I go to bed. There’s likely going to be more of this on here from me from now until Thursday and thensome! 🙂

    #117028
    lynng2
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    I am up way past my bedtime, but what I got out of reading that was that he is still not registering that everything is changing, whether he wants it to of not, and that change has a deadline. He still hasn’t told people about a lot of things. He won’t be able to make a choice about that for much longer. His lips are moving, but that’s about all the action he seems to be capable of. That is soooo familiar, and so frustrating.

    The tone of voice thing is such a jerk move. So wrong. If all we do in response to their deceit and destruction is use the wrong tone of voice, they should be thanking us on bended knees. What an immature, self centered statement.

    #117029
    teri
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    That tone of voice thing is him just trying to deflect, make the situation about you. Same with him saying his friends told him to divorce you. Good for you for not taking that bait. (doc e has used those countless times, it got to be where I was so afraid of having the wrong tone of voice that I couldn’t speak normally). And now he can’t move because you refinanced. Sounds like you stood your ground well.

    #117030
    march
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    You cannot have a sane, honest conversation with someone who likes child porn.

    #117031
    cbslife
    Member

    Well said, March. Well said!

    #117032
    anniem
    Member

    Claire, he seems to thrive on self-pity, like so many of them do. And their level of immaturity is just crazy-making. But it sounds like he’s not able to push your buttons with that stuff anymore. Well done, sistah! xoxo

    #117033
    972
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    Claire, he is not capable of having a conversation. Try to sit tight until Thursday. We will all be with you and help you thru whatever happens.

    #117034
    cbslife
    Member

    I know, Bev that he is not capable of having a conversation. I’m just so antsy to get MY life straightened out that I find it extremely frustrating.

    Annie, when I talk to him I do feel like I have the upper hand finally. I don’t feel threatened by him. Certainly he does not like that and he doesn’t like that he can’t get a rise out of me when he tries to insult my intelligence or tries to make me feel guilty. Makes me want to get in his face even more to show him how powerless he really is over me, but I refrain.

    Thank you ladies for letting me vent here. There will be more to come, I’m sure.

    #117035
    march
    Participant

    Pathetic, that he would even TRY to insult your intelligence or make you feel guilty. What a fucking bottom feeder he is.

    #117036
    lynng2
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    He tries to make YOU feel guilty?!?! He shows no grasp of reality whatsoever, projection to the nth degree right there. He’s just sick.

    #117037
    nap
    Participant

    A sick MF POS. Having a serious conversation with most of these guys is like trying to grab smoke…..

    Dont torture yourself if you can help it.

    #117038
    cbslife
    Member

    Honestly, you guys, the only reason I’m talking to him is to try to convince him to leave. I’m trying to be nice so he doesn’t hate me, because afterall he is my sole financial support, but at the same time, I’m feeling guilty for trying to fool him that I care one ioda!

    I KNOW . . . don’t feel guilty about fooling him . . . easier said than done!

    #117039
    march
    Participant

    It’s called survival, Claire. It’s his fault you’re in that mode.

    #117040
    cbslife
    Member

    I got so much shit swirling in my head, I feel like time is running out.

    I finally said “Fuck that” and took a xanax!

    Happy Sunday, everyone 🙂

    #117041
    daisy1962
    Member

    Better living through chemistry Claire. 🙂 Happy Sunday to you too.

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