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April 21, 2011 at 8:33 pm #3129joannParticipant
I have finally written my story to share, but it has been painful for me as it plunges me back into the dark days. My story isn’t so much different than any of yours, I have tried to summarize and keep it short (my dad used to call me Windy Lindy), but the instances I have shared are the ones that keep re-playing in my head and that I can’t seem to push aside. So, maybe sharing will become healing.
Before life with a sex addict, I was married for twenty-five years when my first husband left our three daughters and me. He was not a sex addict. He simply met and had an affair with a young woman who was only eight years older than our oldest daughter who was then a high school senior. I use the word ‘simply’ only because it now seems so uncomplicated compared to the nightmare of sexual addiction.
I was then…and I thought we were… happily married. I did not know that he was not. When I found out about his affair I immediately told him to get the hell out until he could give it up and honestly come back and commit to our children and me. He could not and we divorced. It was the most painful thing I had ever experienced. Had it not been for three amazing teenage daughters, I would have died. Not taken my life, just simply died of a broken heart.
But, I didn’t die; I moved on and created a new life for my girls and me. We moved to a new city, I bought a new home for us and we started over. Over the next six years I dated a few men, one seriously for four years, but then decided that I really didn’t need to depend upon a man to provide me with health, happiness or security. I was happy and felt safe with the path before me.
Then I met and married my current husband who is a sexual addict. I did not know it at the time, but oh Lord, if I had, I would have turned around and run so fast. He was a sweet man and I saw in him someone who was kind, caring, very sensitive, and vulnerable.
The story of life with a sex addict always begins on the evening I find my husband with a prostitute. He is working late and I drive to work to surprise him. I pull up in front of our building to find another car parked out front; the door to the building locked up tight. Standing in front of the large storefront window, I see my husband naked to his waist, cash in hand. As he turns around and sees me, he deflates like a balloon, panic enveloping him. I am unable to breathe, and feel myself tumbling and falling into a black hole, and everything in the world that I knew and trusted goes with it. I follow the prostitute out to her car and speak to her. She says she is lost and is looking for directions so I tell her next time to get lost somewhere else. Her reply is to ask if I am one of those crazy c***s who cannot take care of her own husband, and she laughs at me as she drives away.
There were warning signs, and I should have heeded them early on, but I did not know them. I should have known what they meant, but I did not. Shortly after our marriage, I discovered a journal that contained hundreds of web site addresses, memberships, and passwords for porn sites, and dating sites. There were pages and pages of women’s names, addresses, phone numbers, along with their physical descriptions. I was appalled, and sickened, and I confronted my new husband with the discovery.
He fell to his knees and begged forgiveness saying that he had hoped I would have never have found out. I did not know then that keeping lists of women was part of his compulsion. I believed him when he said it was something from his past, he was over it, I would never see those things again, and I forgave him. I didn’t know then that forgiveness was the easy part. Recovering from the hurt and pain of his betrayal was just the beginning of what I now know will be a lifetime struggle for me.
My husband joined a 12-step group, and sought out a number of therapists. I became more vigilant. While working a full time job for another company and then putting in time after hours working at the family business, I kept finding more and more pieces of paper with women’s names, phone numbers, and physical descriptions. I would confront him, and he would be sorry…but I kept finding them…daily. Not hidden, just lying around inside files, under stacks of papers, on top of invoices, they were everywhere.
At first, I was embarrassed to check his personal and business e-mails, and phone records. Gradually I began uncovering the whole ongoing sick world of my husband’s addiction that included prostitutes on a regular basis, massage parlors, strip clubs, chat rooms, memberships to dating and pornographic websites, phone sex, compulsive masturbation, and the list goes on. I finally began to know.
I would feel pity for him because of his shame and obvious pain. I would pity myself for being married to such a person. I would worry about STDs. I would rage and cry, and I swore I was going to leave him, but I did not. I did not know then if he was spiraling out of control, or if he was already out of control. I thought I could help him.
Again, a couple years later, another one of SA’s prostitutes stopped into the business one night while I was working late. My husband saw her talking to me, and hid in a bathroom. She said that he owed her money for work she had performed for him around the store. Then she told me what work she had really performed and that he still owed her. I felt rage and hatred for my husband, and I felt rage and hatred for that creature, but I also felt pity for her (such a strange mix of emotions).
She appeared to be living on the street. Dirty, ragged clothing, probably high on drugs; her speech was crude. Then as I studied her more closely, I was not sure if it really was a woman, or a man. SA admitted later that he was not even sure himself. S/He finally left the property only after he came out of hiding and told her to get lost. Of course, we went through the now familiar cycle of him denying and lying, and making up some wild story about how she was crazy and had come in all dressed up in a short skirt and heels and propositioned him.
Days later, she appeared again saying she had left some article of clothing in my office behind the sofa. I told SA to call the police while she waited, so as not to create a scene in front of employees and customers. He agreed it was the best thing to do. While waiting for the police to arrive, she volunteered detailed information about their encounter. I did not want to hear it…it was my husband she was talking about. I shouted at her, I scolded her; and then crazily I thought that perhaps I could make her understand that what she was doing was illegal, that she was a human being who deserved more. Whatever possessed me to try to make her understand anything like that, I still don’t know.
The police never came; of course, SA never called them. I told her to leave, and upon leaving, she hugged me and thanked me for being kind to her and giving her hope. However, just like the first prostitute, as she turned to leave she looked back and said that I should learn how to take care of my man.
The re-telling of this second encounter has left me sickened. It was an experience that I was unable to walk, or run away from. It was like trying to wake up from a nightmare and you just cannot. I do not understand my reaction to this very day, and I wonder if I actually lost my sanity at that moment. I did not know where to turn or who could help me.
I searched the internet for help. I called the local 12-step chapters and could not seem to find any help. I sought the help of a therapist but he did not know about sex addiction. I gave up and felt I was the only one who could help me. I became frozen and was unable to move forward. I was living with and loving an active sex addict.
Not too long ago SA became infatuated with a young woman that he picked up on the street, one that lived just a few blocks away from our business; a prostitute that asked for and was paid money for her services. We have security cameras installed at our place of business and as I was reviewing some of the files that contained an unusual amount of activity, I saw my husband hang a sign on the door and usher in another prostitute. It happened on Christmas Eve while I was at home getting dinner ready for our children and grandchildren.
I came unglued, and once again I heard his lies and his feelings of self-pity. He explained this last one away saying she was a good friend, someone he could talk to about his problems, and she needed money to support her children. He felt sorry for her and said ‘you know what a softie I am’. I was incredulous! Only during the past couple months has he finally admitted that she too, was nothing more than a street whore.
Shortly after that, SA went out of town on a business trip. I was so exhausted emotionally that I just could not spend another day with him and thought a few days on my own would give me some rest. I begged him before he left to promise me he would not act out while staying in the hotel. He took my face in his hands and lovingly looked into my eyes and told me he would not have a problem, and he did not want to hurt me. That evening after he arrived at the hotel, I checked his e-mail and found that within minutes after his arrival he had posted an ‘out of town for the evening’ ad and was conversing with a woman about meeting.
I called him, enraged! When he got home, he was of course acting like a broken man. He decided to write down and sign a promise stating he would stop everything. He appeared to be sober and in recovery for nine months, but I soon found out differently. He was still on porn sites during that time. He had discovered Internet Explorer’s In-Private browsing so there was no trace of his deceit.
SA once said that he felt I was not supporting him because upon every discovery I would lose it. I was astonished that he actually believed that…he just did not get it!!! I did not know then that support to him meant that I would be accepting of his inability to control his addiction. I believe that the 12-steps had only taught him at that point that he was unable to control those impulses, and he used it to manipulate my emotions when he acted out. He did not want to get well, and there was his handy excuse.
I have loved a man, who is kind and gentle, and has cared for me, and I have hated a man that is a sex addict and one that threw all that love back in my face. I do not know that anything in particular happened to him as a child. He says he cannot remember most of his early childhood. He is a man who cries openly during romantic movies. He cries while watching Disney movies and cartoons. He shakes with emotion when the underdog wins in the end. I see someone who becomes emotionally involved in a fictional world. Real life for him is not like that, but it is one he craves; romance, admiration, and the love of a great woman. He feels empathy for make-believe characters, but cannot find it in real life. He has sought out counseling with numerous therapists, none of whom he felt could help him (an excuse heard all too often), and has attended weekly 12-step meetings (even though he has admitted that some of his previous meetings he did not attend because he met with prostitutes).
At this writing, many years have gone by, and it seems nearly every day was a new d-day. So many lies and half-truths…I was slowly but surely losing my mind, my health. I have put my family and friends on hold. The last few years I have partnered with my husband and his business, and we now work together daily. I developed a habit of scheduling every moment of every day thinking that if I were around him he would not have opportunities to act out. It has not worked, of course. He would be chatting on-line when I walked by. He would find ways to get around any history recorded on the computers at work and at home. He would use the work phones instead of his cell phone, knowing that we do not get printed reports of all calls.
The past few months we have not been intimate, not shared our bedroom, and have given ourselves one more year. SA said he is committing himself to serious recovery and will do whatever it takes. He says he will know at the end of that year if we have anything left. I say not if WE have anything left…but if I have anything left. He is angry at times because of the restrictions he now has to live with as he fights the addictive urges to act out. I remind him that this is of his own making and the anger belongs to him alone.
I have been observing his attempt at an honest and real recovery process. He is trying to educate himself more about the addiction; has finally asked one of his members at the SA group to be his sponsor, and whose name and phone number I have. He is working on transparency and the lying that comes so easily. He has found another therapist, one that specializes in sex addiction, and I’m hoping he can recommend someone for me as well.
We have installed web monitoring on every computer and laptop at home and at work. I feel safer in my home and work environment now, and I worry less. I am finally, understanding, and accepting that I cannot control his behavior; cannot make him do or not do the things I ask. I still struggle with the hyper-vigilance issue, but now there is a new voice telling me that simple awareness (in terms of mood, attitude, or pattern changes) is a much healthier approach for me.
So…I am still here nine years later. Why have I stayed you ask? I am asking myself that question too, and I do not know the answer. Maybe it is for financial reasons, but probably not. Maybe it is because I am turning sixty this year and just do not want to be alone, but I am not afraid of that either. Maybe it is because I love him, although I am not sure in what way. Maybe all this is too late, and perhaps this new attempt will not bring about any real changes. I wonder often if I will stay or leave, but with my boundaries firmly in place, I will not have to make that decision, he will do that for me.
I have learned so much from you dear Sisters…those of you who have made the painful and heartbreaking decision to leave, and those of you who have chosen the very difficult path of staying. You provide hope, and strength. I am finding myself again bit by bit, and every now and then I wake up in the morning and instead of dreading what the addiction will bring that day, I can look beyond it and see a day of great possibilities.
April 21, 2011 at 8:51 pm #12187busybeeParticipantOh Lindy – I really feel for you. I’m sat here with tears in my eyes. So much of what you said is so familiar. Don’t really know what to say except stay strong and stick to your boundaries. Lots of love.
BbApril 21, 2011 at 8:55 pm #12188dianeParticipantDear Lindy,
thank you for having the courage to get it down on paper. We all know there’s lot more to say, but you certainly gave us the broad sweep of the last 9 years. How horrible it has been. When you speak of being emotionally exhausted, I sure understood why, and I also remember being that exhausted just anticipating what behaviour might be ahead of me still.My SA is also a softee when it comes to movies and tv shows. He always wants a happy ending, especially that the main character finds love. He has more emotional involvement with these fiction characters that he does for real people. Isn’t it too bad they value the fake people more than the real people?
It’s hard to read your story and feel at the end as if you are a passive presence in it (besides the hypervigilance activity–which is actually passive as well since it’s all about what he “might” do). Do you feel powerless? Or have I misread the situation? I understand not wanting to be alone. At 55, I struggle with the reality that this could well be it for me—no one will ever touch me with desire and love–and I will grow old and die alone. doom and gloom etc. But as my friend points out—“why are you afraid you will live alone–you already live alone and your life is pretty full!). I do live alone, but I am not alone.
I hope talking and writing the story out will allow you to see things with fresh eyes, and take the next of your journey—whatever that may be.
lots of light,
DianeApril 21, 2011 at 9:11 pm #12189AnonymousInactiveHi Lindy-Thank you for sharing your story with us. Your reasons for staying and the mo of your’e husband are the reasons most of us stayed longer than we should, or decided to ride it out.
We really get hooked on they’re “Good” side, at least I did. I kept thinking he would change, when in reality there is so much involved in staying with someone with an addiction.
Of course the motivation for change is first and foremost, and recovery takes years – often with many slips and relapses.
I think the fact your’e husband cannot remember much of his childhood indicates there was probably trauma along the way. I think many of them truly feel remorse and shame for what they have done, but really can’t help it. The compulsion drives them in an attempt to escape from intimacy, which is much too painful for them to participate in. They live in a world of fantasy to escape that pain.
I recently filed for divorce, after hearing hundreds of times how sorry he was, it wouldn’t happen again, and he was going to beat the addiction. Unfortunately, he is like the majority of other SA’s who want to change, but a life-time process takes a life-time to get over. The lieing they engage in is as difficult to get over as the addiction itself, and he continued to lie to me up until the time of filing for divorce.
I don’t know what the future holds for you in terms of deciding whether to stay or go, but I can tell you that even in the best of circumstances you will continue to have years of trauma and hurt if you decide to walk the walk of recovery with him, and that is even if he is motivated to do it.
I am not painting a very pretty picture, and unfortunately there is not one to paint. It is a difficult decision to make, and sometimes takes a long time to get there.
You have certainly been through enough unhappiness, so I guess you have to decide how much more you can tolerate.
I will tell you, as others of us on this site have learned, that only approximately 5-10% of addicts recover. They learn to manage they’re addiction by finding healthy outlets to replace the acting out, but basically once an addict always an addict, and there is always a risk of it rearing it’s ugly head down the road.
I truly sympathize with your situation, and hope you can find peace and solace in whatever decision you decide to make.
You will find love and support from us all, so keep talking to us when you need it. This site is wonderful, and everyone on here has been where you are, and will give you love and support when you need it.
Love and hugs to you.April 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm #12190AnonymousInactiveHi Diane – good point about the age. I just turned 69, and had a lot of the same feelings you did. It is so true, that living alone is really better than being alone with an SA. Hope you are doing well.
April 21, 2011 at 10:28 pm #12191dianeParticipantHI Sharron,
thank you for asking…I’m okay. Up and down. Sometimes I think I’m too tragic for words, but I seem to have good friends, work and two great sons—they all keep me going every day. But way better than I was a year ago, or a year and a half ago!Hi Lindy,
I wonder if you’ve heard of JoAnn’s 80/20 rule? She stays in her relationship with her SA if she’s happy 80% of the time, and unhappy only 20% of the time. She encourages us to figure out what percentages work for us. This might help you to know if you are okay where you are right now, or if you need to make changes. How would you rate your current happy/unhappy numbers? Is this a “regular” time frame for measuring, or is it just after an episode? Will those numbers change on their own in a week or two?love,
D.April 21, 2011 at 10:57 pm #12192joannParticipantDiane and all my dear sisters,
Thanks for pointing out my 80/20 rule. But, I think there is a little more that I would like to explain about my relationship with Larry. I have very strict boundaries and I am an absolute bitch about enforcing them. I hold his feet to the fire and there is no room for defensiveness, evasion or lack of cooperation.
Larry knows that if he ever acts out again with hookers that it will be the end of our relationship. He also knows that if he does not continue to work on his issues, continue with counseling and psychiatric care and continue to improve his communication skills that I will not continue with this relationship.
I am saddened when I read stories of sisters who continue to accept bad behaviors from their partners without enforcing boundaries or expecting respect.
Stay strong sisters, maintain your dignity, expect respect and enforce your boundaries. If the SA will not work with you then it’s time to let it go.
April 21, 2011 at 11:35 pm #12193napParticipantHi Lindy,
Thank you for sharing your story with us. It sounds like it has been a very painful 9 years. My h was also into the same things as yours: prostitutes, massage parlors, casual sex sites, pornography, these are what I know of. There is likely more, however, I don’t want to know. My husband like yours is very, very addicted. Mine has been doing this for many years and likely even before the marriage. We were married 25 years. He couldn’t stop, was not truly committed to recovery and therefore still acting out.Lindy, what are you getting out of this relationship? I’m hearing in your writing you are getting a lot of pain and hurt. Did you have a lot of pain in your childhood? I did, and it set me up for something I was familiar with: more pain from an unhealthy relationship. I think you need to ask yourself some really hard questions. The longer time passes (9 years!) the more accepting we become of the behavior. Denial, rationalizing, minimizing all start to develop to protect you from the reality that your h is a very sick man. If you can, you have to step out of the circle you have been living in and say: this is not who I am and what I believe in. Im a beautiful, loving , caring woman, who deserves love, respect, and fidelity from her husband.
Lindy, I tell you this as a sister and a friend. You say you are 60. Can you imagine this life at 70? You are still young and can have a very happy life. You did it before with your kids you can do it yourself for you. If your h can do recovery then thats great. However, please be honest and truthful to yourself always and things will only get better.
Thinking of you and always here for you…Love, Nap
April 22, 2011 at 1:04 am #12194AnonymousInactiveDiane – I sure hope it gets better with time. I will be glad when this divorce if finally over. I am still hurting, have a few crying spells now and then, but overall I am doing better.
Steve showed up on my doorstep at 11pm on our anniversary. We talked until 3am. I think his mission was to console me, but mainly to try and convince me to change my mind. I did see some manipulative behavior, and he cried and cried. That really played on the old emotions!
He told me we have lots of time until the divorce is granted, and a ” lot” can change in that amount of time.” I honestly think he believes he can get better in 90 days-talk about denial.
I stuck to my guns and told him that is not realistic – also told him I intend to go through with the divorce. He left, and we both shed tears.
It still hurts, but my God, how can anyone live with an SA who continues to lie and deceive? No way-No how!
Glad you are getting better with time, but sounds like you are still having some rough times as wekk. I hope in a year and a half I will be in a better place.
Love to you.April 22, 2011 at 2:48 am #12195deboraParticipantLindy,
Wow, what a trip! I was thinking about you there at those terrible moments, going to work and finding him there with prostitutes. I can feel your shock as you tell your story.
Then I hear you settle in to that reality and start working it. I don’t know, I still feel all new to this. Even though I feel like I’m in the same place, living in my new reality, just not as blatant. But we all make these decisions to adjust to this craziness. I think we are all in shock.
I want to believe that you know you’re worth more than this. That his nice guy crying at sad movies part doesn’t compensate for his out of control oops I just slept with a few skid row prostitutes at work persona.
You have had a couple bad marraiges, tragic and hurtful. Tell us about how you see the nest five years. What do you want for yourself? You are a strong woman who made a new life once before. I know the feeling of being older and having less confidence and energy but I’m listening to these women at 70 who are saying, this is not who I am.
Thankyou for sharing your story. I know it helps to get it out there. I’m sending you my love and prayers for your healing.
With sister love,
Debora
April 22, 2011 at 3:23 am #12196zumbagirlMemberDear Lyndy,
Thank you for sharing your full story. I’m still waiting for the courage to completely share mine, which has similarities. Right now, I’m sitting at this stupid computer crying–for you, me, all of us. I’m wishing peace and courage for you, and really for myself as well. (((HUGS)))April 22, 2011 at 3:48 am #12197marieParticipantHi Lindy,
Thank you for sharing your story, I think it is important for your healing and for the continued healing of we, your sisters, collectively. Your sentence, “The story of life with a sex addict always begins on the evening I found my husband with a prostitute” was particularly poignant. That wasn’t my husband’s thing, but we all have a sentence that begins that way. Continue your work on healing yourself and stay firm on your boundaries and that sentence and the others that follow will lose the power they have to hurt you. Live your life, be the woman you want to be…..he’ll either show up as a responsible loving adult or he won’t. We know that we are healing when we’re okay with that. Keep doing your work, we will be your fans and cheer you on. Another thing that really struck me is that you survived and found a way to thrive after your 1st husband left….and that had to have been really hard. But you did it….. you’re a survivor and then some:)
MarieApril 22, 2011 at 4:23 am #12198silver-liningParticipantHello Lindy,
Thank you so much for sharing your painful truths with such brutal honesty. Like the other sisters, I feel and share your pain, one lousy year at a time! I would also like to tell you what I would like to doo to your SA for hurting you so but I will leave it to your imagination! You certainly have been through alot and you sound like an awesome lady and he is so lucky to have you (for now)! I hope for your sake he gets it together if that is what you want the most…. Only you can answer that!
Your story gave me a heavy heart, and I too shed some tears for all of us! This is so unfair! It is up to us to decide the kind of life that will make Us truly happy. Personally, I refuse to go to my grave regretting that I allowed this disrespect for my entire lifetime, but that is just me. I stuck it out for 17 years and I’m tired now! I wish you best of luck with your decision and choices and know that we are all here for YOU and for each other and we truly DO understand (the good, bad, and ugly!) Peace be with you, sister!P.S. I love you, Marie!! 🙂
April 22, 2011 at 12:46 pm #12199kattMemberlindy thank you for posting your story i know how hard it is to do. you wrote ” You provide hope, and strength. I am finding myself again bit by bit, and every now and then I wake up in the morning and instead of dreading what the addiction will bring that day, I can look beyond it and see a day of great possibilities” i feel this to, this site is the first time i have felt REAL this addiction takes so much from us. we get so lost along the way. please keep posting and sharing and know that as long as we are not alone we will continue to find our true selves
much love kattApril 22, 2011 at 3:13 pm #12200napParticipantHi Lindy,
Hope all the posts are giving you some good support. Do you have any thoughts after reading them?April 22, 2011 at 6:29 pm #12201ms-lindyParticipantHi everyone, thank you so much for your love and support. I have cried reading every response, probably from just getting the story out there and having someone else to cry with me finally. I DO have many thoughts and much to contemplate after reading your posts, there are a some really good tough questions you’ve asked. Do I feel powerless…not for myself anymore because I know I’m strong when I have to be. What am I getting from this relationship…wow that is one where I really have to write down my list and take a good long hard look, I think it may be a little lopsided right now. And NAP your question about living this life at 70 really struck a chord, wow I hadn’t looked that far down the road…the answer is NO!
I will be posting more, but I’m so worn out right now. I love all of you dear ladies, and I feel everyone elses pain too when I am here. However, more than the pain we all share is the caring, and support, and understanding and it just oozes out over us all and makes us stronger. It’s kinda like being wrapped in dark chocolate 🙂 yummy!
April 22, 2011 at 7:07 pm #12202napParticipantHi Lindy,
Thank you for your follow up response. It is a lot and be kind to yourself and don’t get overwhelmed if you can. Make a list of things you enjoy doing and do them. Treat yourself like gold…because you are. Love, Nap -
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