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tonight i get a call from wayne he says the blazer is in the back yard and i left a cd and a note. im like why is the blazer here. he says so you can have it. so i go out find the note and cd. the note says something about his nights and how he sleeps. the songs are the cranberries zombie, two meatloaf song rear view mirror and whatever it was. so i look up the lyrics and i get this feeling of hes going to do something. so i go over and the house is dark hes there and i stand at the door. i just know somethings not right. he starts his crap about me leaving, i tell him to give me his shotgun and ill leave he says no i tell him to get in his truck and just go. again he starts his talk so i tell him point blank i will not be treated like a whore hes free to go pay for one he can not afford me.i go on to tell him its about control and he thinks if he does it he can have power over me i said you are to weak to ever have power over anyone let alone his self. he again tells me to leave i told him it just does not feel right. give me his gun or leave.i told him ive fought my whole life while he run his he will not wi this one. he gave me the gun. i told him he needs help he can not do this on his own. he says i know. the next thing i know he took off in his truck. when i got home my son checked the gun it was loaded, i feel like he was going to shoot him self, my gut knows he was. i dont know what ishoud do i have no proff he was but i just know. he told me he has nothing left.
Hi Katt,
If anything in the lyrics or note talk about hurting himself or someone else, you can call the police and they will take him to the ER, there they would most likely admit him for psych treatment. Also tell them about the loaded gun. He has to say he’s going to kill himself or someone but if the note or lyrics say it, I think that would be enuf, plus the loaded gun. He needs help really acutely. What do you think about this?
Love, Napnap thanks i have to look up the words again i dont think they say that its more that i know. im not wrong. yes he needs help, i think im going to give it til midnight then im going to go talk to my local guy. see if he can do anything. i left a note at the house for him to at least let me know hes ok. what a mess he needs to do something, what i really guess its up to him. my son is worried, keeps asking if waynes alright, hes 15 and only knows wayne cheated on me and has a problem with lying. knows some of the pron use just not the whole thing. thanks god how this sucks.
love kattIt’s very scary when we don’t know what people will do. There are always options, that what I told my h when he looked like he was done. It may not feel like it but there always is. Keep us posted. I hope he is okay.
Love, NapDear Katt,
This is what I know about suicide. Those who are serious, don’t talk about it…they do it. Those who talk about it and allude to it usually do not do it, but they want attention or help. Some people do accidentially kill themselves when they really wanted attention but that isn’t the most common scenario.This may seem an odd question, katt, but since you threw him out and he went to work on the other house …has he worked on it?? Is he getting any work done on your daughter’s house? And you are right…it isn’t up to you. This has been a terrible holiday season for you Katt.
Karen xxkaren yes he has been working on the house. crazy work over drive really. i think this has become the addiction that is what he does. so if i was to guess that is no longer enough for him. he doesnt talk about killing him self directly but did say he has nothing left in his life. what a big f-ing mess. i sit here thinking i should go over and see what is up. yet i know i can not change anything. i am so tired at this point. he is so not a fighter funny how different they look once we know. ill go over to the other house latter when im up to it
much love kattKaren, in my experience, which includes working in a mental hospital for the past year, that’s not true. When they talk about it, pay attention. Especially if they have a plan and the means. And ESPECIALLY men. Men don’t fuck around. They don’t take a handful of pills and call 911. Hence, the shotgun. BUT the drama needs to stop. Call the police, Katt. Do what you can. Then let the chips fall. You can’t spend your life going back and forth, trying to save him from himself. I don’t know what this is, Katt, but it doesn’t sound like love.
thanks march i can not save him i get that i really do. as far as the cops they will do nothing i talked to my local guy and he said in less hes doing something illegal i really can not do anything. you know the stories about west virginia you hear many are based on fact. one thing ita a mans world, in less you are born and breed here you are a outsider, crazy is as crazy does. if hes going to do anything he will. the i dont want him to do it that house. i know the impact it will have on my kids. that scares the hell out of me. march maybe its not love but i know what it feels like to know nobody cares, what it feels like to be so alone. could be my issues from growing up ya most likely without a doubt.
thanks and love kattKatt, I worry about every time you go over there. He has loaded guns and he is kinda getting really loopy. I worry that something could happen to you.
I have been worried for you. so last night going to bed i pictured a wall around you and your house. This protective wall. I don’t know if it will work, but i will keep trying.
Love,
FloraKatt,
I am going to join Flora in picturing a protective wall of love surrounding you. And I agree with March, any talk or action suggestive of suicide should be taken seriously. I know the police don’t do anything, but a local mental health agency may. The doctor could order him hospitalized, even, for surveillance. That would be costly, though, and not for sure he’d comply.
Depending on the state you are in, if you write an affidavit to the effect of suicidal thoughts/plan, (Also anyone else who has heard the threat) SA can be held on a 96 hr. hold in a mental health facility for assessment. You can contact intake at the MH facility and submit the affadavit. Then, if he refuses to go, the police will pick him up and take him.
That is the way it is in Mo. and Ks.flora thank you he no longer has any guns left they are all here at my home. i put them away only my 21 year old and i know where. he really is going down quick. the last time i saw him i could see the turmoil he is in. i told him he really needs help he said i know. will he who knows. as far as mental health services here they pretty much drug them. he went to a free clinic a few months ago. i sat with him when he told them everything and they gave him a scrip and told him to come back in a month. he said he needed more and would also like a evaluation for pds. they told him to take the pills and they would see him in a month. he asked if he could talk to someone else they said he needs to come next month for a new scrip. he was quite honest with them as i was and nothing more than the scrip. he told me the other day he went to the va i dont know if he did or not,i hope for his sake he did. i told him i need proff of any help he gets, i dont trust him
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