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  • #8910
    robinlight
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    I’ve been married 28 years and found out my husband’s infidelities (which from what I have gathered has been our entire marriage) – February of this year. Our divorce should be final Jan 2, 2014. This has been so hard for me. One thing that makes this hard is my husband says he loves me, that I’m making a mistake (I’m divorcing him), that he has “repented” and forgiven himself. He went to Every Man’s Battle in June and did have some counseling for about 3 months.
    We are separated, but he often shows up where I am (following my schedule), and calls me a lot. When I don’t agree with him (regarding something dealing with the divorce he becomes irate calling me a F.. B___h (he did this today). I think he is getting angrier because the divorce is about final. 100% of my support group (including my adult children) think I should divorce him, but I still have doubts and miss him. It’s lonely. I’m about to be out in this cruel world by myself. Bills are starting to roll in now – that I am responsible to pay.

    From what I’ve read on this site, most of these guys are all the same. The times wives have given their husbands a second or third chance – the wives seem to find out later that their husbands were still cheating all along…YEARS later. It seems this is these guys’ character. *A question about character – can character ever change?

    #120537
    diane
    Participant

    Character doesn’t change as long as it gets what it wants without changing. Truthfully your husband hasn’t really done a whole helluva lot, and hasn’t been at “recovery” that long. And he’s already swearing at you because you don’t agree with him.

    It is tough being alone, but not as tough as being with an emotionally and verbally abusive man who has a bad temper.
    YOu miss who you thought he was. You grieve the loss of that person. But your husband is not that person. He never was. And it’s really tragic but nothing you can fix by staying married to him.

    When I was first on my own, I joined a choir, said “yes” to any invitation to go to a show or out for coffee, went to the library every week (still do) to be around people, talk to all the check out clerks so I could have a conversation, invited other people for dinner or coffee, took a course, volunteered. There are lots and lots of things you can do to break the cycle of being lonely all day. You will still have lonely moments but when you change how your engage the world, the world opens up in new ways for you.

    Of course he wants you back. Then he doesn’t have to deal with himself, he can yell at you instead. Deceiving and betraying is also all about having control in the relationship, and I want to raise a red flag about him showing up where you are. Please don’t be cavalier about that. Tell him to stop. If he doesn’t, call the police. When these guys are pressured and we don’t do what they want, they can become violent.

    Oh, and the world isn’t cruel. It is both troubled and blessed. And it takes courage to step out into it and be real. I doubt he has that courage, but I’m sure you do. And we will be there with you, every step of the way.

    warm hugs,
    diane.

    #120538
    cbslife
    Member

    Wow Diane, that was an awesome post!

    #120539
    daisy1962
    Member

    Yes it was Diane – your Goddess is showing dear Sister. 🙂

    Robin, my first thought when I read your post was – this dude is nowhere NEAR recovery! You are doing the right thing. Trust your instincts. You can’t wish him into the man you thought/hoped he was and you sure can’t fix him. You’ve already given him three decades – that’s more than enough. I’m sorry for your pain but glad you are getting out. Keep going. A divorce isn’t like death (which is unfortunate in many cases) in that it can be undone. If he undergoes a miraculous change, you can remarry but that is a huge if. And as Diane said, don’t take that showing up wherever you are lightly. That’s called stalking and in most states it now qualifies as domestic abuse mainly because it’s a behavior that often escalates into something worse. Please be careful and call the police and/or a domestic violence hotline if it continues.

    #120540
    cede
    Participant

    I am not divorced yet, but am Going to be in April. Mine was sweet for about a week and now he tells me “Sorry, but you didn’t make you happy so I’m moving on” Honestly it was easier when he was sweet. Easier to at least feel valued in an over 20 year marriage. Now I crave that. It is gone however. My advice is to do what is best for you.
    2 years was my initial discovery and I had another one exactly a month ago. He went to therapy, promised me he would never do this again. SWORE he would never do this again. Well from what I can tell he started after about a year (prob sooner). If you don’t get out this is your life. It never ends. I write this with sad heart as the sick part is I still want his love, but the saddest part is I never really had a true love.

    #120541
    lisak
    Participant

    robin, diane’s post is excellent.

    he might think he loves you. but i’m guessing that is no where near what you would call love.

    lying, cheating, stealing, abusing. that’s not love.

    i know it’s hard, don’t listen to him. he will say a lot of things, and most of them won’t be true. he is manipulating you, and saying what he needs to say to try to get what he wants.

    we all deserve better than this kind of treatment. as scary as it is, it is better, IMO, to stand up and say NO, in the strongest way to this kind of treatment. and for me, that means leaving. i CANNOT stay with someone who would treat another person the way he treated me. it goes against my deepest values.

    trust yourself honey. and do not talk to him about his and your feelings… in my case, that only lead to more pain for me.

    #120542
    teri
    Participant

    Just his calling you a “Fucking Bitch” is grounds for divorce. If this is him trying to win you back, just think how he would be if you actually went back to him.

    #120543
    nap
    Participant

    My xh was like the wind. One minute he loved me so much ‘he would die for me’ then the next changing the locks on me and making me homeless. Then during the divorce leaving gifts on my doorstep now I can’t get him to return a phone call. They can make you dizzy. Being consistent is not their forte.

    #120544
    tmp271
    Member

    Cede, ” the sick part is I still want his love, But the saddest part is I never really had a true love.” Ditto, girl.

    #120545
    nap
    Participant

    Yes, it’s like grabbing smoke, just when you think your close to getting it, it’s gone.

    #120546
    march
    Participant

    What Teri said.

    #120547

    Girlzzzz, you make me proud once again. Absolutely spot on post Diane.

    I am going through this process with my schizophrenic, drug addict brother. Yesterday, a thug showed up to “get” me. I have gone into hiding from my brother and his peers for life. I am struck by the parallels in regards to the way the abuse plays out. In essence if blame of others and deception doesn’t get them what want, and intimidation or abuse doesn’t either…..then violence just might so why not give it a try? Chilling.

    Girlzzzz, beware. Stick around the hood for your safety.

    #120548
    liza
    Participant

    “A divorce isn’t like death (which is unfortunate in many cases)…”

    You’re so right, Daisy! Death = Casseroles!

    #120549
    gail
    Participant

    Hi love
    It sounds like you are at a place where many of us were. of course you love him. You have not changed. your love for him has not changed. He has hurt you very much and betrayed you. As you continue this path of divorce you will discover who he really is. All of his behaviour from here onwards will show you that he really never loved you. You see its all about him. You divorcing him puts him in a bad light. He would have wanted it the other way around, but you were too smart. I will be the first person to tell you its not gonna be easy. He is going to try and strip you at every angle and chance he gets. Keep posting, let us know how you are doing. We are truly here for you. And the truth is…… it does get easier. The more he exposes that bad side of him, the more you realise you have made the right choice, and You Are, believe us all, you are making the right choice.

    #120550
    kmf
    Member

    Well Robin,

    I’m not going to say that branching out on your own after 28 years is easy because it isn’t. But to answer your question “Does character change?” NO. It doesn’t. Not in my opinion. Some here hold onto that hope but I am not one of them. Your husband doesn’t love you. He wants his own way. There is no connection between love and what these dudes get up to. If what they do to you is love, who the Hell needs any enemies? He is not in recovery, not at all. In truth, NONE of them are ever in recovery. They just don another mask. Him swearing at you is a good indication that he has NO REMORSE for what he has done so if you stay with him you have to accept that you are now living with some asshole who is smirking to himself because he got away with it. Because if you stay ( and I have) make no mistake. They have gotten away with it. You are doing the right thing. NOT the easy thing but the healthy thing. Is normal to miss being part of a couple and to miss who you thought he was. Diane has given very good advice I think.
    Big Hugs, Karen

    #120551
    teri
    Participant

    What Liza said!
    And I’m sure the life insurance would be a much better deal than I am going to get out of the divorce!

    #120552
    maryreddy
    Participant

    Let him show you how sober he is after the divorce. Give him a year to “win you back.” You will soon realize what we all know…what we all had was not love. It was lust masquerading as like. He all ready stole 28 years of your life. Don’t let him steal anymore. Keep walking out the door. You are doing the right thing!

    #120553
    robinlight
    Participant

    Thank you so much for all of your help! I came to this site because I need encouragement and strength. Thank you! I’m glad 2013 is behind me and am really looking forward to what 2014 has in store!

    #120554
    kimberely
    Member

    He’s not the smartest man calling you a f’ing bitch in the midst of divorce proceedings while claiming to still want you.

    What he wants is to have his cake and eat it too. You discovered he cheated most or all of your marriage. It’s funny how they destroy the sanctity of marriage with no regard for our feelings yet we get strong and end it and NOW they have an opinion about not wanting to lose it? He should’ve thought of that before he found his penis a new home inside someone else’s lady business who was not his wife.

    Puh-leeez!

    What exactly is in it for you to stay? From where I sit, I see not one positive in staying.

    Is it Companionship? Get a dog or a cat
    Love or sex? Get a boyfriend or a vibrator
    Giving up your house? It’s all tainted anyway by what he’s done in secret.

    I hope you go through with the divorce. It’s hard and it will be for a brief time but then it will get better and easier each day.

    One day you’ll look back and you’ll be so glad you did it.

    You will find love again. And it won’t be with a cheater and it won’t be tainted. Stay strong.

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