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  • #89772
    daisy1962
    Member

    Yes, that is what happened. Catherine- Teri and Lynn are correct. Writing a scorching post and then deleting it are nothing new and it will happen again, I’m sure. But having said that, I am concerned about you. There was a tremendous amount of anger in your post that was directed at us. If you really feel that you are not being supported here, it’s important that we bring that into the light and address it. None of us want you or anyone else to feel that way. If you are angry at us, let’s talk about it.

    With love and concern,
    Daisy

    #89773
    teri
    Participant

    Catherine- thinking of you and hoping you are okay.

    #89774
    diane
    Participant

    Teri, I don’t know how you live through this, and you still laugh at our jokes, forgive us when we must miss the point altogether, and post to cheer us up too. All that and look after your children. You are a true goddess.

    #89775
    kmf
    Member

    She sure is.

    #89776
    daisy1962
    Member

    Yes.

    #89777
    march
    Participant

    Well, when I got home from work, I discovered the deleted post, which I’d missed during my drive, in my own message box, in the form of a personal attack.

    I purposely didn’t respond to Catherine’s post on another thread about my anger, and her comment about offending me, because I saw no need to stir conflict, and I understand the desire to look for the silver lining in a hog’s rectum.

    My posts were not directed at Catherine, so I was quite surprised, shocked actually, at the rant/rage, which would be better directed elsewhere.

    Again, I WILL NOT pull my punches where these guys are concerned. They are FUCKED UP, and they HURT OUR CHILDREN. Put your rose-coloured glasses back on, if you’d like. It took me four fucking years to take mine off for good.

    #89778
    daisy1962
    Member

    March, I will be totally pissed at you if you ever do start pulling punches and I’m much nastier than Catherine. You are who are you and I love you for it. I value your comments, your anger and most of all, the generous sharing of your experiences which you lay before us as a cautionary tale no matter how painful they are for you. Don’t you dare change. We need you just as you are.

    #89779
    allcat62
    Member

    I am very sorry for stirring up trouble and March if your posts were not directed at me I am sincerely sorry. I am over-sensitive at times so I have interpreted your posts as an attack on me and my decisions. It was not my intention to make a personal attack on you. You are very gutsy and I respect you for that. Catherine

    #89780
    972
    Member

    I think March has laid her pain and denial and begging and pleading and hoping and praying and putting every fiber of her being into trying to stay with Greg out on this site honestly.

    I doubt seriously you will find anyone that has tried harder than March. I don’t think you will find anyone that has been more honest about her pain and her mistakes.

    She has shared with us. She does not share with us to shame or berate us. She shares because it might help one of us. That is what a sister does.

    Catherine, I know you are not a mean person. I know you want your marriage to work. I hope it does. I truly do. That does not mean that your H gets a pass. You are nervous about going to California and I get that. I told you I was a chicken shit and I need to go but I don’t want to (yet).

    March has been thru hell and back again. She needs to get every ounce of it out. I personally believe Greg almost killed her ( not literally but her spirit/soul).

    Maybe your H is not Greg. I don’t know. But he was March’s and her story should not be dismissed as an attack on any of the rest of us…..

    I am sorry anybody was upset at a post that was about anger that we all have.

    #89781
    teri
    Participant

    Sometimes the way the posts are laid out, one following the other, it can seem like one is a response to the one right before even when it is not. And sometimes I have noticed similar language or a common phrase can make one sound like it is related to another.

    I’ve checked these out from time to time when I felt like I overstepped or took it personally and usually I have found that I misinterpreted. But I am really glad that I took the time to check it out.

    Anyway, misunderstandings can happen easily.

    March, don’t you ever pull your punches.

    #89782
    hadj608
    Participant

    I had to read through this whole post twice. I am feeling really dense right now, so I may as well throw in my 2 cents.
    This whole sa/fake marriage we have all been duped into is bullshit. Listen to yourselves!!! There is no argument here!! We have every right to be completely pissed off. We were all married to walking contradictions!
    If we had married obvious cheating assholes we would have just divorced them and moved on. This is different.

    I married a guy and had 5 kids and we had a wonderful life, he pretended to be the perfect husband/dad. Never did I or most people in our world think something like this could ever be possible. I know you all come from the same place.
    again ~ we would have just divorced them if they were obviously cheating assholes.
    I always kept peace in my husbands high anxiety world. I am so pissed off right now. I gave him everything I had. I sacrificed for the peace and quiet in my family. He ran over me, the one who will love him more than anyone else in this world, like a fucking bulldozer, so he can what?…….fuck random losers on craigs list! The first random fuck being 3 weeks after our wedding!!! The thank you notes still needed to go out from our 500 people invite wedding, and he’s humping a coworker in MY car. I’m incredible pissed off for the beautiful, thin, starry -eyed 19 year old who he manipulated to accommodate his corrupted existence. I am divorcing him for her, I haven’t even gotten to the next 30 years!

    Catherine, I did not see your post. You are in an earlier stage than march. I have seen march NOT stand up for herself for too long. (it’s always easier to see it elsewhere). I find March’s anger such a relief and I feed off of it. Dear lord – she is such a great person and he was sucking her into his hell. Thank goodness she is saving herself. For her kids, for herself, for us!

    This is not about unfounded or inappropriate anger. We are fucking nuts if this doesn’t piss us off. ~ or patrick carnes zombies.

    #89783
    kmf
    Member

    Well said heidi. Very well said. If they had been normal cheating bastards we would have divorced them. We are all angry about the years they took and for some of us they took most of our adult lives. Now whether we stay or we go….we do not have to time to go back and choose again and have the kind of marriage we deserved. It isn’t right and it isn’t fair and it is so damaging and that is why some of us are really stuck and hurting and finding it hard to rebuild new, fulfilling lives based on this new reality. You said it all perfectly. I hate your H and most days I hate mine.

    #89784
    kmf
    Member

    I just want to add that I adore March and she is well aware of that fact. Just the same, Catherine has apologized and admitted she may have taken things out of context. March is strong and smart and a therapist. She understands how this all works because she has lived it. I am guessing she doesn’t want to take it any further than clarifying her position. If I have put the wrong words in her mouth she will soon set me straight but I think March knows that Catherine is struggling to find her own truth.

    #89785
    hadj608
    Participant

    4 points I forgot to make:
    We cant fix them so the point of this whole support group is to sort this shit out and support each other.
    Karen and Diane – your posts are fascinating and awakening, again.
    Go figure that ella and her sleazy sa stirred up controversy…again (I think this is healthy) they triggered me, pm’ing me to solicit services, it felt betraying.
    It seems that the people who have been here longer seem to unintentionally stir up defenses for the newer people. Long ago we talked about splitting into groups that were in different stages, and decided it wouldn’t really work. Maybe we should have a # after our name that indicates how many months we have been doing this? A journey indicator?

    #89786
    teri
    Participant

    And thanks you guys.

    I get through it because I have all of you.

    I was trying hard to relate to what you were talking about, Diane, and I realized the anger from dr. evil’s sex addiction really tapped into a whole larger picture for me. And I couldn’t differentiate it. So I think his abuse which then became the therapist’s abuse then became the system’s abuse. It’s all related, I think.

    It is beyond shaming- it is punishment that I face. I am threatened with losing so much if I get angry. And yet how could I not be angry?

    Forgive me, I don’t mean to be self-indulgent. I don’t know if I can extrapolate from my experience. But I am feeling like society is turning a blind eye to abuse and then blaming the victim for getting angry about it. I feel like is is pervasive.

    I seriously need to go listen to some rap music now.

    #89787
    972
    Member

    Okay Teri, You need “thrift shop”…I’m gonna pop some tags, only got 20$ in my pocket….It’s all the rap rage right now 🙂

    get the explicit version…It is god awful 🙂

    #89788
    liza
    Participant

    What the hell, let’s just kiss and wear makeup, girls!

    #89789
    nap
    Participant

    Diane,
    Remember when I chewed you out when I was on
    the sight a few months? It happens and if people have the grace to apologize then it’s okay. I was super sensitive back then. I hope we can all understand and accept our humanity.
    Love to all, Nap

    #89790
    972
    Member

    I’ll drink to that Liza 🙂

    #89791
    march
    Participant

    Thanks for the kind words. Don’t worry about me. I’m fine, not upset, not changing my MO.

    Know, too, that as I am expendingl less energy trying to fix the unfixable, focusing none on him and what he’s doing, memories are coming back, clear and cumulative. More anger.

    #89792
    teri
    Participant

    Thanks, Bev. Sounds perfect.

    #89793
    kmf
    Member

    I don’t remember that Nap??? I didn’t think anyone had ever gone up against the “Goddess”. LOL I remember you tore a strip off me once. No doubt I had it coming. I know sometimes I get on here and rant and rave about something and in the end I am really ranting at myself. I think most of us have seen this happen and come out alright often enough to know “this too shall pass”

    #89794
    kmf
    Member

    We get what is happening to you march. I am DYING to ask what Greg is doing in all of this BUT I am trying to be respectful and wait for you to update when you feel ready.

    #89795
    lisak
    Participant

    interesting march, that your memories are returning. really really interesting. are they things you had suppressed, or things you hadn’t thought about in a while?

    after d day, i found two things really surprised me.
    – my sexuality returned to me full force. my desire to be beautiful and a sexual being (on my terms) hit me within a few weeks.
    – i suddenly felt lonely. i had been spending a lot of time alone. feeling lonely completely overwhelmed and surprised me. i remember i had a concert in TO at the end of a month long professional development stint in NYC. DW offered to come with my son. i planned to go alone months in advance, because i preferred being without DW even before i knew the truth. before d day i wouldn’t have been lonely at all. after d day and i knew what the fuck was going on, suddenly being alone in toronto made me really lonely..

    i wonder what hidden/protected feelings will surface for me once i’m free of DW…

    #89796
    lisak
    Participant

    who’s greg? 🙂

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