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March 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm #3008floraParticipant
Okay sorry for the rambling today – but another topic from me.
Did you know that 1 in 25 people is a Sociopath? OMG! I had thought the term sociopath was kept to murderers and …well I don’t know what else.
My therapist recommended the sociopath next door. I was having a hard time wrapping my head around how someone could be so thoughtless, careless……the better term is lack of conscience. My stomach churned when I read this book and the descriptions. The authro says that they have no trace of empathy and no genuine interest in bonding emotionally with a mate. Their marriages are loveless, one-sided, and almost always short term. The only way the marriage partner has value is as a possession, one the sociopath may feel angry to lose, but never sad or accountable to or for.
This now answers my question of how someone could do this? How does he seem to not even care and no sorrow, empathy or effort to get better.
This, although sad for me, makes sense. He always appeared to be straining or fumbling on words or acting when he would try to explain things with feeling. IT is like he is acting or mimicking what he should do…because that is what he is doing. He cannot figure this out for himself, because he has no conscience or emotional attachment to work from. This is why I always have to tell him what to do (and he asks me to tell him what to do or asks what he should do)…because he truly does not know. And then when he does not do it (like getting a job), he truly feels no guilt, because his life is to be lived for him and no one else. We are just a cover and a link to normal, just like the sex addicts and the addiction. He has often complained of feeling empty and hollow…just like in the book. He had hoped that we the family could/would fill that void, but it did not work. In addition he does exhibit the thrill seaker behavior with the addictions to pot and sex.
I on the other hand never had a clue anything like this existed, and have a strong overpowering conscience. As in the book she talks about how they get away with it. Because many cannot comprehend what it would be like to have no conscience and do not even realize a thing or disorder like this exists (that is how the skate through life, praying on our lack of knowledge of such things).
When I spoke of my first husband to people they would say that he is a sociopath. I did not comprehend as I thought that word was reserved for serial killers. So it would not surpise me that my dad is a sociopath as well, thus completing the picture and the tape that is playing is now evident. My past is that all the men have been sociopaths, and I keep replaying this in my life.
I think that I have finally solved my puzzle. I think I will file for divorce this week. I have given the SA more than enough time (a year + to be exact), but no time cures a sociopath and he will never turn around. No doubt in my mind that after a year later I should see some signs of positive progress in recovery and toward our relationship.
PS. this book is written by a lady who sees the effects of trauma of the betrayal of those whose lives have been torn apart by a sociopath. Very interesting.
March 6, 2011 at 4:00 pm #10907lyloParticipantWow flora. That is very interesting. I wonder if sociopaths are born or created by parents who don’t teach them to care about others nor do they hold them accountable for their behavior. Either way, it must be a relief for you to put the pieces together and see clearly what your path has been.
March 6, 2011 at 5:21 pm #10908marieParticipantHi Flora, I read that book a few months ago and found it fascinating. learned so much from it, too. I am glad that the pieces are fitting together for you. It still must be very painful to end a relationship that meant so much at one time and with the father of your child, but I can hear the relief and the hope in your words about the life you have ahead of you. You deserve that life, Flora:)
MarieMarch 6, 2011 at 7:00 pm #10909AnonymousInactiveHi Flora- Yes, an SA certainly does have a lot of sociopathic tendencies. I, also, know my dad was a sociopath, and once you are programmed to a sociopath you do not know any other way to relate in relationships. I once had a colleague of mine tell me he could always identify a sociopath in the clinical setting, but if he were to meet them on the street, they would fool him as well. Nice to know, huh!
I am so glad you have made the decision to move on. It isn’t easy, and there will be pain as there has been for me.
So, two of us filing for divorce this week. My heart and prayers are with you. Stick to your guns and do not waiver in your decision for one moment. You may have setbacks along the way, as I have, but both of us know this is the decision we have to make.
Both of us have been struggling and feeling the pain from our SA’s for a year. Enough is enough, and we deserve better.March 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm #10910napParticipantHi Flora and all,
If you go to lovefraud.com you will get some great information. The lady is a psychologist who after getting married, having a son, discovered her husband was a sociopath. She also has alot of good reading on her website about addiction and sociopath.
March 10, 2011 at 3:55 am #10911AnonymousInactiveThanks NAP, mt therapist form the intensive just suggested tonight my SA may have a sociopathic personality disorder. I am heading to that site next.
Lori
March 11, 2011 at 3:19 am #10912hurtheartParticipantI also believe my SA has sociopathic tendencies. I have said it from the beginning; even before I found out all the horrific things he had done to me. The man has no idea how to act human, unless he puts on an act in order to make others like him and praise him. It’s maddening. I’m going to also check out the link, thanks NAP for the info
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