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  • #112957
    alicemarie
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    Wow Donna thanks for sharing. I can so relate to this behavior. I have to say- I am a bit jealous you get to make a clean break!!! That accidental violence where your tooth was knocked out- would have escalated at some point.

    And it was so helpful for me to read your post and some of the other ladies. I feel a lot like you. Filled with self blame, doubts, questions etc and honestly when I read your story it was just clear to me that we the “abused” in the situation can’t see what has happened or what was happening with these men.

    So much of the info you shared points to him. He would blame shift, gas light this is all after he reeled you in with is charm and empathy and kindness etc. It was all phony from the beginning I really believe that. Don’t be surprised if you end yourself wanting to call, go back or you bump into him or he calls you. Please know you are dealing with a narcisstic sa who seems sociopathic.

    Be sure to get away from him. I’m sorry to sound so pushy but you don’t have children- I do with my ex boyfriend and he abandoned me after being highly abusive (raping me) then I decided to keep my son and thought he was out of the picture only for him to come back in.

    The best thing that could of ever happened to me though is him kicking me out after I told him I was pregnant. He slept with me one last time- I thought he was actually being loving- then he turned on me quick and told me to leave immediately- it was winter and cold out. I remember I was just crying, feeling raped and just wanting him to be that nice guy ( who was so gentle and charming and kind to take care of me) I mean how sick was I? But thankfully I too am seeing my childhood wounds and how much healing I need. We were vulnerable. These men know that. Not all the women here have a troubled childhood but I did and my ex I believe targeted me and used that against me. These men can be so good looking, charming, kind, empathetic ( we think) but then the real them starts to show through. Sounds like he started to really treat you cruel. Anyway sorry for all the rambling. Thanks this is helping me too.

    Just stay away from the nut case and count yourself very lucky!

    #112958
    donna76
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    Karen and Diane…..thank you….I am trying, I have had to dig very deep to find what is in me…I am a RN already and work in ICU – he is also. We no longer work together….that is a blessing. I have decided to apply to med school since I need to focus my mind elsewhere. Away from him. Sadly I still miss the person he professed to be, when it was just me and him I perceived him as my best friend…..I understood him and I thought he understood me….sadly when I found out what he was doing I clung onto that and even after he left and told me to ‘f**k off or he would call the police’ – through an open window at his friends place where he was staying. I still begged him to talk to me. I wanted him to come home. I know it’s messed up but he convinced me that I was imagining it, that he had stopped, when in actual fact he just got better at hiding it. He even went as far as to ‘pocket call me’ and I could hear a conversation between him and another woman about making breakfast…..before the line went dead and also he has befriended all those women he acted out with on Facebook…..I have blocked him. I still feel as though someone as ripped my insides out and stuffed them back in but I am working, taking care of myself, occasionally seeing friends (many have now moved out into the surrounding suburbs and have small children , making it difficult). I do not yet have the confidence to make new friends….but I hope that will come. I remain suspicious of the motives of many, I even question in my mind what my old friends tell me. For example, I was planning to visit a friend overseas a few weeks ago….she called me 2 days before I was due to fly to tell me her mother had passed away. I am ashamed to say that part of me thought she was just saying that because she didnt want to see me. Of course I know that is not true…..and I feel ashamed for thinking that way but that’s how little I trust other people now.

    AM, I’m so sorry for what you are going through. Treasure your baby and gain strength from it. I too was pregnant 5 years into the relationship. I really wanted the baby, he didnt. He told me to have a termination and that if I continued with the pregnancy he would leave me. I was so upset by this. Sadly I miscarried. The day after my miscarriage he told me he was going to visit his daughter for the weekend and left me on my own to deal with it. He has a child from a previous ‘relationship’. I should have known then and made him leave. I didn’t. I then had to go to A&E that night as I was so ill. I had to call a friend to be with me. He didnt even come back when I told him I was in casualty. He came back the next evening. And went back to work the next day……he could barely bring himself to ask me how I was. He complained that I hadn’t done laundry and shopping and that he had no food to take to work…..I believe in part that my miscarriage was brought on by stress. He said it happened as we were not strong or stable enough to have a baby. Stay away from him, minimal contact for the sake of your child. I work with the best friend of the mother of my exes baby. She said I look ‘lighter’ since I left and that his baby’s mother only keeps him around so that the child has a father figure…..I was tempted to tell her just what he is like. But I have a feeling she must already know….she never allowed sleep overs or trips to visit us…..in fact I never met the child and the mother didnt know for a long time that I existed, I think she only found out by mistake….he rarely called. And she rarely answered the phone when he did between visits….he said its because she is a control freak…..I now beg to differ…..

    Take care D x

    #112959
    liza
    Participant

    Damn but I’d rather face a full-on zombie apocalypse than tangle with just ONE sociopathic sex asshole.

    #112960
    liza
    Participant

    Alice, there ain’t no such thing as ‘accidental violence’. Donna got fucking headbutted ‘on purpose’. Just to clarify.

    #112961
    liza
    Participant

    Everything these fucking freaks DO or SAY is on purpose.

    #112962
    donna76
    Participant

    Liza, thank you for being outraged on my behalf. When that happened he was drunk, he was angry because I had driven to the pub to pick him up as he was not answering the phone again and I couldn’t face another night of wondering where he was. He got into the car and was so angry I had turned up, when we got home he went to the sofa and I tried to talk to him, he asked me to leave him alone but I was so upset. I didn’t. He then walked to the bedroom and get his bag and started to pack a few things in silence. Stonewalling me. I tried to grab his bag, halfheartedly, he pulled it away from me and head butted me. I ran to the bathroom and realised then that my front tooth had been dislocated. He then immediately calmed down and tried to make me phone the police. I said no, I blamed myself for getting between him and the door and for trying to grab his back to stop him from leaving. I blamed myself. His step father used to lock him in his room and prevent him from leaving, get drunk and abuse the family then hit him with a baseball bat, I knew that by getting between him and the door was wrong, but I didn’t want him to leave, I just wanted him to calm down and see my side of everything. He didnt. He was really ashamed of what he had done, still I blamed myself for pushing him. But in hindsight I should have realised I am not his step father and he knew that but I guess I triggered something in him. I wish he had gotten help. At work he is so caring to his patients, relatives, and other staff…..his potential targets I guess. I just wish he had given some of that concern to me. An ex girlfriend apparently hit him with a frying pan she was so exasperated by him, another tried to commit suicide…..I should have seen the pattern. I know I loved him, my heart breaks when I think of him, but I know that he was unhealthy for me. It doesn’t hurt any the less though.

    #112963
    liza
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    Donna, repeat after me: IT.IS.NOT.MY.FAULT.
    And keep saying it until YOU believe it. Dude’s a fucking psycho – the world would be infinitely better off without him in it.

    #112964
    donna76
    Participant

    Liza, it’s just so hard sometimes….I have just finished a run of nights at the hospital….being tired and emotional doesnt help….my job is tough. I’m in a much better place than I was though….whenever I go back to the past in my mind I try to retrain my brain to focus on the future. I am so grateful to have found you all. Your existence makes me feel less alone, less deficient and far less crazy. He used to ignore my calls when he was out with his ‘friends’ from work….and just not come home. I would be frantic, my dad was an alcoholic and he was found dead by the river 3 days after he had been out on a binge. I was traumatised and I just wanted some reassurance that my then boyfriend was ok. He occasionally took cocaine when he was out too and frequent gay bars with the guys from work (I don’t think he was bisexual) but he enjoyed attention from wherever it came. I think half the time it was a cover for what he was really doing. He would say trust me, I’m not doing anything wrong…..why do you need to call me repeatedly. I was just having a drink, I would say well why can’t you just respect me enough to let me know you are staying out….he would answer because you would want to know where I am and what I am doing and offer to come and get me. And say that he didnt have to account to me for his whereabouts. Even went as far as to say that I had turned a drunken beer after nights into a nightmare of stress, and that ruining our time off together was up to me….and that if I was going to be angry with him I ought to just tell him so he could leave….all this before I had got home from work, all this whilst I was trying to concentrate…..luckily I have done my job for a very long time and was never off my game but it was soul destroying. He would say I was unreasonable and I was so embarrassed that I never told anyone…..when in fact if I had then I would have seen that it was not me….perhaps. Other times he would come home and apologise for being selfish and take responsibility and thank me for being so patient. It was crazy making. I never felt safe, I never felt loved. In fact after we broke up he told me that he had never loved me that he stayed so long because he was scared of being alone, that he didnt think he could cope. But once he was away from me he realised that he was infinitely happier and had his life back in his own hands again. Other times he would tell me that he was sad and that he missed me…..

    #112965
    liza
    Participant

    WTF, back the truck up, Donna. He’s fucking into DUDES too?? Sistah, take a moment and THANK GOD (or whatever Super Power you like) that he’s history. 😈

    #112966
    donna76
    Participant

    I don’t think so no…..we are nurses …..many male nurses we worked with are gay…..that’s the profession. I just think he liked any attention. He said he was comfortable with his sexuality so going out with them was ok….they are actually good guys, I know them…. To be honest he would go to the opening of an envelope. I think he is lonely and so lacking in self belief that he acted out this way. I remember him telling me that he had been invited over y one of his other colleagues wives for dinner. I think he was just trying to find his place in the world. It’s just sad that he hurt me so much on his way through…..as he said ‘he is being crushed and crushed me on his way through. And that anything good we had has been destroyed by all the negativity’…..well that’s a new word for cybersex sex…..negativity. I know how preposterous this all sounds. Believe me I know

    #112967
    liza
    Participant

    Uh, I wouldnt bet my life on him being straight. Oh the stories we could tell… 😉

    #112968
    march
    Participant

    Women, men, donkeys…it’s all the same to a sex addict.

    #112969
    anniem
    Member

    Donna, all I can say is that I am terribly sorry for everything you’ve been through, but so damn glad you are free of that creature. And 37 seems wonderfully young to me..prime of life, in fact. You’re going to be ok, sweetheart, better than ok. And applying to med school is fantastic. Through all of this your sweet soul still shines through. xoxo

    #112970
    teri
    Participant

    He sounds like a real piece of work. Donna, give yourself some time to detox and then go back and look at his behavior. I think with time, you will see him in a completely different light. When you are the midst of it, you see the best in them and the potential and somehow it’s hard to see how bad what they do really is. You are giving him a lot of the benefit of the doubt and empathy that I am not sure he deserves. It’s okay- I couldn’t even call doc evil a jerk even after my son found his naked photos and I found the orgy photos. It takes awhile for the fog to lift.

    #112971
    diane
    Participant

    Amen, Teri.
    But the fog will lift. And we have to let it go when it does.

    #112972
    donna76
    Participant

    Dear all

    I found out yesterday that one of the women, lets call her X (for the sake of anonymity), had passed away the week before when home in Australia. My ex still worked with her. He didnt know that I already knew. He sent a text to me….now this is after he told me more than a month ago never to contact him again and to move on with my life and away from his….I received his text this morning and have had 12 hrs at work to stew over it. All it. Said was ‘X is dead’. No sorry, no thought you should know, no nothing……strange right? Did he merely just want me to know or is he trying to engage me in conversation? Just asking…..don’t worry I haven’t replied. I think without your insights and inspiration I would have replied eagerly, so thank you all again….you just might have saved my life

    #112973
    ali
    Member

    Hi Donna, it sounds like your traumatic childhood has left you vulnerable and scared. You are so sweet and compassionate, but there is no way that you should excuse away his head-butting you and dislodging your tooth. I think it is the best thing in the world that he left your life. Please keep ignoring him. Go see a good trauma therapist and heal the wounds from your childhood to protect yourself from accepting abuse. That’s what most of us are working on. Even if we didn’t come from a childhood of abuse, we are all abused by what they have done to us.
    It’s no surprise that you’re a nurse since you are such a compassionate soul. I’m just amazed that your ex is a nurse. He doesn’t sound like the kind of personality to want to be tending to others.

    #112974
    donna76
    Participant

    It has really thrown me that he would contact me at all. After everything he has said and especially the cold callous way he gave me the tragic news…..I just don’t get it, I mean why did he bother? I was bound to hear it from someone else…..in fact luckily I already had….and in a far more sensitive manner

    #112975
    teri
    Participant

    Donna, It’s a crumb to keep you hooked on him, and look how it worked. Three words and now you are wondering why, what is he thinking, should I respond?, what am I feeling. That’s not to put you down at all (I still have too much reaction when I have contact, too). They just know how to push our buttons. It’s all about control. And they are really good about doing it in a way that if you do react, they can just say, “What? I was just trying to be nice! What’s wrong with you?” Or if you call or respond, he can throw the “I said I don’t want you to contact me anymore,” back at you.

    You did really well by not responding.

    #112976
    donna76
    Participant

    I’m sorry but I responded. He unleashed yet another torrent of abuse at me. I guess I am my own worst enemy. I had contacted his sister though a few weeks ago in a moment of weakness. I told her some of what he had done. I wasn’t looking for revenge. In fact I wanted her to help him where I have failed. He has responded to me angrily threatening me with the police if I go around bad mouthing him, spreading untruths and being malicious and harassing his family. I have always been kind to them. He has walked away with everyone thinking he is great and I am truly left alone with nothing. I’m not sure i can take it anymore. I thought I had come so far

    #112977
    artemis
    Member

    Donna, do you have a therapist for yourself? if not, i recommend getting one. you should have support for yourself in dealing with what has happened recently as well as old wounds that you are processing. also, something i’ve used when i have those urges to contact or respond is the 24 hour rule or the 3 day rule, 1 week rule, etc. it’s like the dieting rule, you know how they say if you want to eat something, drink a glass of water and wait an hour to figure out if you are really hungry, or eating for other reasons? if i am tempted to respond or initiate contact, i tell myself i have to wait X hours or days to decide whether it’s the right thing to do. (it often isn’t) but this is a simple trick i have used to buy myself time for clarity and more emotional stability. if i do actually need to say something, i will be more clear about what to say. i used this also when i was with my SAXBF as a tool to manage my own triggers, anger, desire to lash out, etc.

    #112978
    donna76
    Participant

    I am seeing a therapist, I thought I was doing well. I told her I was. Intending to tell his sister….everyone thinks he is so great, I wanted her to know so she would help him ….this is what he sent me….
    You have crossed the line messaging that to my sister. Any more contact is unwarranted and will be reported. You have crossed the sacred line and It seems you don’t want to stop interjecting yourself in my life. This is not trying to help me. This is trying to destroy my family and my life. This is messaging my sister. The line is blurred to you as you are nursing a bitter inner malice towards me that has you bent on revenge for perceived injustices. You have become nasty, vengeful and now you have involved my family yet again. You didn’t do this for me. You did this for you. It needs to stop one way or the other. I have a life to lead and it won’t tolerate this periodic interruption and cyber-abuse. Stop it or it will be reported as unwarranted harassment.

    #112979
    972
    Member

    Consider it a life lesson. You CANNOT help him. I do not know how much more emphatic I can say it. He does not want your help. You need to help YOU.

    If you were magically able to line up everyone in his life and show them that you are right and he needs help it still would NOT help him.

    You have got to let him go and work on healing yourself. He is not interested in help. Why are you focused on him? That is the question that you need to explore with your therapist. He fooled you. You thought it was love. He lied and it wasn’t. It’s a shitty break but you have got to leave him alone or he will call the cops on you or something worse. These guys are not sane. You have no idea what he is capable of. It’s like poking at a grizzly bear. Don’t do it. It is not safe.

    You are NEVER going to get an answer from him that is satisfactory. Do yourself a huge favor and start making a list of reasons you are grateful that he is out of your life.

    #112980
    donna76
    Participant

    Bev, I know you are right. I feel such a fool. I put up with too much. More than my heart and my sanity can cope with. I am starting to think I will never be back where I was. The person I used to be…

    #112981
    972
    Member

    Of course you will. He was a really bad boyfriend. It is and was a nightmare. I promise that you will be just fine.

    I was married to a guy for 20 years and had NO idea he was bad. I’m going to be just fine too. We all feel/felt like fools. feeling like a fool never killed anybody. We got scammed. It is not a death sentence.

    Focus on the here and now. Put energy into you. Maybe you won’t be the person you were but you will be even better 🙂

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