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October 11, 2013 at 11:48 pm #113182972Member
I guess it would be inappropriate to suggest that this is the place if you are so fucking mad that murder seems reasonable?
What about ‘Welcome to the Patio”?
Come on and sit a spell?
Take your shoes off?Just kidding JoAnn. I think it’s wonderful and I agree with the other sisters about the ashamed part.
BTW, You rock girlfriend. You are about as ‘unold’ as they come π
October 11, 2013 at 11:53 pm #113183caligirlMemberJoAnn I’m a photographer and create textures, papers and templates for photoshop.. If you need anything like that for your programs, new sites etc please just ask.. I will be happy to give you my website and shop.. I will be happy to help you or help design for you in any way.. Just ask : )
October 12, 2013 at 1:08 am #113184lizaParticipantCali, you are frickin’ AWESOME! JoAnn, I like to drink and would be happy to send you alcohol. Just ask π
October 12, 2013 at 1:37 am #113185joannParticipantThank you caligirl. I will definitely keep you in mind.
I am continually amazed by the amount of talented Sisters we have here. I swear, we could run the world if we just had a way to get rid of all of the assholes first.
October 12, 2013 at 1:38 am #113186joannParticipantLiza, I accept your offer, but only on one condition. You have to deliver it in person. Love you.
October 12, 2013 at 1:46 am #113187lizaParticipantBe careful what you ask for, JoAnn! π
October 12, 2013 at 2:03 am #113188joannParticipantThe door is always open.
October 12, 2013 at 2:07 am #113189lizaParticipantYou have NO idea how tempting that offer is – right this very second. Murder vs. Margaritas….
October 12, 2013 at 2:23 am #113190victoria-lMemberJoAnn, love what you’re doing. I agree with other sisters about many things. Using voice will make it more personal/comforting. I think the positioning of “Find out more now” is too high. Not a fan of the hand at the very end covering/pushing the SOS logo — the movement isn’t gentle and it’s somewhat distracting. Love the woman on the couch — natural, raw, bare. Perhaps include another one of these graphics, with women together to convey a sense of community. Love the calming music.
October 12, 2013 at 3:13 am #113191victoria-lMemberP.S That is so neat, Cali. I worked on campaigns for many years, mainly advocacy and political. If you ever need further advice etc, JoAnn, feel free. I think you have this completely on the right path.
October 12, 2013 at 3:14 am #113192972MemberOn a serous note JoAnn, I do think you ought to say something about the Carnes and Co. blaming the spouse. That was my biggest hurdle besides learning of the whole bunch of shit. You don’t have to mention Carnes but maybe one of those ” Are you sick to fucking death about wondering what your part was because you had no damn part…?” type things…..
Just a thought.
October 12, 2013 at 3:59 am #113193caligirlMemberBev that hit home!! At first I thought ” what dud I do wrong. What part did I play in this”. I know now I gad nothing to do with it!!!
October 12, 2013 at 4:00 am #113194caligirlMemberLiza you are so sweet!!!!
October 12, 2013 at 4:20 am #113195972MemberIt really freaked me out to read all those books and, in my most vulnerable state, get to the chapter about “accepting my part”….
I was already thrown into a tailspin. I already thought WTF, I was already about ready to go under. Then, the “best” books from the guru on SA said I was to blame.
I don’t remember everything about those first months but I remember those chapters in those bullshit books urging me to and demanding me to look at my culpability. It was the icing on top of the crazy cake. …… SOS should distinguish itself from the blame game for sure π
October 12, 2013 at 12:34 pm #113196lisakParticipantjoann,
i’m just joining in now. i agree with the sisters on removing the you deserve it at the end, and ashamed, maybe isolated instead? it might be nice to add your voice at 1:40. the hand looks a little akward there, and it would be a good place to hear you…
well done! and thank you for everything you do for us.
October 12, 2013 at 1:15 pm #113197trishParticipantI love it. I don’t love the hand pushing up the logo. I guess I am in the minority but when I first found the porn 13 years ago, I was terribly embarrassed AND ashamed which led to my depression and absolute isolation. So those words definitely work for me, because that is exactly how I felt. This time not so much. This time it was anger, devastation and hurt. The use of addict doesn’t bother me at all because that is the term that is out there right now.
JoAnn- you are so amazing!! Thank you for all that you do for us!! Oh – and you are SO not old! I’ve met youΒ don’t forget! You are smart, funny and very pretty. The Package!!October 12, 2013 at 1:31 pm #113198teriParticipantVery nice, JoAnn,
Do you think it might be worth adding a line about trauma or “where you will not called codependent or co-addict?”.
So I remember when I joined SOS, I would look for that specific message.Also, I was very wary of anything that touted itself as “Christian”. Not that I am anti-Christian but because of the particular bent of therapists who self-proclaim that publicly. So maybe something inclusive sounding? I don’t know if it is necessary bc I only tended to filter out based on the presence of “Christian”. The absence was a plus, but it would be reassuring to have it explicitly stated.
October 12, 2013 at 6:40 pm #113199rainaParticipantI understand Teri, I also filtered out Christian sources. I am a Christian, but have found that many of the sources have a narrow perspective. They tend to have clearly defined definitions of porn, relationships, addiction etc… None of which seemed to fit my needs.
I also felt embarrassed and ashamed when it all came down. At the time I was taking on the embarrassment and shame that I was certain he would feel… wrong. He didn’t seem to be any more distressed than if he had been in a fender bender. If he was feeling shame he certainly hid it well.
October 12, 2013 at 7:19 pm #113200joannParticipantAgain, thank you all for the input.
Maybe I should have made myself a little more clear about what I am doing. I plan to produce many, hopefully dozens, of various types of promos. The purpose is to connect with every type of woman out there who may need us.
With websites or videos, they each have a code in them that helps the search engines find them. So, let’s say that someone searched on google for help for partners of sex addicts—google’s software (which is massive) filters through billions of websites or videos and finds the ones that have those words in them somewhere. Then it uses algorithms to filter the millions of results and then parses them and spits out a list. To make it all even worse, just when people like me figure out what the search engines are looking for, they change the rules.
So, marketing my sites and these promotional videos requires proper coding, words, titles and content in order to show up if anyone searches. This is inconceivable to most people. How can I, as the Sisterhood of Support, float to the top (the first page) of searches that someone may do? There are literally billions of choices.
Here are the latest statistics on websites:
The Indexed Web contains at least 3.74 billion pages (Saturday, 12 October, 2013).
That’s were my expertise comes in. And, it’s not easy. It involves a boatload of behind the scenes work, focused keywords, content and tags and more than just a bit of luck.
If I don’t do my job correctly my sites and promo videos will end up on page 30,457, which no one will ever, ever find.
So, that’s why I appreciate all of your suggestions. Each word that you suggest will help me to target the audience that I want to reach.
One of the reasons I am using this particular software that ‘writes’ out the words (besides the fact that it is very new and trendy) is because studies have shown that over 80% of viewers will watch it until the end. That is huge. Most ads, whether they are visual, audio or text, have to catch the audience within 15 seconds for visuals and within the first sentence for text. So, if this somewhat hokey new look makes them watch the entire video then I am way ahead of the game.
This new look is very expensive. I spent days searching for software to do it after I had seen a few videos. I didn’t even know what to call it.
I finally found a company in the UK that sells the software and the subscription to continue using it far cheaper than the company in the US that contacted me. The US company produces these types of videos for people like me and the cost is $100,000.00 (yes, that is one hundred thousand dollars) for five minutes of finished video!
Fuck that!
So, keep those suggestions coming because I plan on producing as many videos as I can think of scripts to write.
Much love to all of you. ~ JoAnn
October 12, 2013 at 10:03 pm #113201jos1972ParticipantIf it helps I google searched help my husband fucks hookers…
Why can’t they do that search?October 12, 2013 at 10:08 pm #113202joannParticipantI can work that into my code.
It’s not what ‘they’ work into their search, it’s all automatic according to what YOU type into your search bar.
If you search for certain words or phrases and the search engines find those words and phrases, then your site or vimeo or youtube videos will come up on their list.
It’s basically driven by what people search for.
Then, what the search engines bring up is based upon their goofy algorithms.
It is really strange how the search engines work. And, that is a whole industry in itself.
but, I plan to flood the market with videos that will hopefully find women who are searching in the middle of the night and need our help and support.
October 13, 2013 at 12:23 am #113203teriParticipantJoAnn,
Women are so lucky to have you.I’ve heard that search engines filter based on what sites you go to. So if 2 people type in the exact same search terms, they can get completely different results. Everyone gets their own internet bubble.
I don’t even know how you would try to play that.
October 13, 2013 at 1:01 am #113204joannParticipantYes, that is true Teri, which adds to the complexity of it all. Your browser, whether it’s Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, Opera or any of the other less popular ones, set cookies and also remembers which websites you go to. This has nothing to do with the major search engines like Google, Bing, Yahoo and Ask and their results.
So, you are correct, your computer will add another filter for your search results IF you have your browser settings to do that–and most default to do it.
There is no way I can do anything to influence that.
Web life is a bitch!
October 13, 2013 at 1:29 am #113205kimberelyMemberIf you’re expanding (this topic and this site needs more air time, so to speak) I may have to change my pic…..
For anonymity, I love the smaller “club” feel. You’ll have more members for sure as word spreads by YouTube and other places, but I’m paranoid at times with my pic up. Other times, I don’t give a rat’s ass if I’m recognized.
It’s not my addiction anyway. It’s his.
October 13, 2013 at 6:34 am #113206jomardParticipantI really like it, Jo Ann. Regarding the feelings, the ones that I most relate to are confused, embarrased/ashamed, angry, sad. Like the music, love the writing and the drawing. Looking forward to seeing more of the finished products. I admire your energy and determination.
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