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May 4, 2012 at 4:08 pm #4756
debinca
ParticipantHello all,
Just wondering – based on my SAH and Heidi’s saying that are “being good” right now….
What might we expect from our SAH’s? Are they ticking time bombs?
Mine is going to SLAA meetings once a week (and says he is getting a lot out of it), reading the bible, and going to weekly trauma therapy. I would guess that he has sexual anorexia (or is “white knuckling” it) as he doesn’t seem that interested in sex (he said that he thought it would take me months to get there). He isn’t indulging in the live variety right now based on E-blaster – but I don’t monitor his computer so I haven’t ruled out the chat thing.
He says that he realizes that he is afraid of intimacy (thus the pros, CL ads), has a “mom issue” (thus yoganana), isn’t keen to do a disclosure (as he wants to put it all behind him) and is worried about moving on to another addiction…
What can I expect next? (from those of you who have been around the block).
Forewarned is forearmed.
Deb
May 4, 2012 at 4:45 pm #36217pam-c
Participantwatch carefully for juggling of another addiction. My stbxah increased alcohol and substance abuse after his confession of being SA. but he was never consistant about going to therapy neither, sounds like yours is.
i think it is good that he is listening to his “warning signals”. HIs addictive brain–wants a replacement if he is starving it. They easily juggle. so just watch, and look for signs.
I wish I could say what a real recovery would look and feel like to give more advice. but I don’t. That is where your gut comes in Deb. Trust it with your life.
May 4, 2012 at 4:58 pm #36218anniem
MemberDeb, I think the things he is saying and doing are all good things in themselves. This is just my own experience, but what seems to happen with my h is that he’ll get very motivated and energized for a while, but then proceed to get careless. Not in terms of acting out, as far as I know, but in terms of de-prioritizing recovery. I think part of this is because they’re used to the ‘quick fix,’ so they get lazy. And like your husband, mine has said that the thought of getting plastered or smoking dope has appeal, but he doesn’t have any desire right now to go back to porning and whoring. (He’s a recovering alcoholic, as well.) So I would keep my guard up, as you have been doing, because the shelf life of their highly-motivated moods isn’t always very long. xoxo
May 4, 2012 at 5:37 pm #36219kimberely
MemberMine jumped right in last year then gradually after 3 mos stopped therapy and group then came the defensiveness and blaming again! When he acted out and caught him via the phone app he would be a jerk about it and lie as well as minimize. This is when I started thinking ‘Here we go again.’ which is when I put the gps device on the car bc I wanted to know how bad it was and what truths were actual truths. It’s the lull as I call it. The time they acknowledge to the time they feel we are less suspicious then BAM! they hit us hard again with getting caught at something else. I dread lulls!!!!
May 4, 2012 at 6:27 pm #36220kimberely
MemberPam’s right. It’s not uncommon to take on another addiction when fighting the first one
May 4, 2012 at 7:24 pm #36221nap
ParticipantAccording to Dr Phil, an addiction is always replaced with another addiction and in a healthy recovery it’s a healthy addiction like working in the yard or taking up golf or some other activity which isn’t self destructive.
My h when he was in recovery for a very short period went right to the alcohol and never had a history of drinking before. He would fix himself 2-3 hard liquor drinks a night and they didn’t seem to phase him. Just goes to show how addicted his brain is.
May 4, 2012 at 7:28 pm #36222debinca
ParticipantNAP – funny you should mention golf. My SAH is now addicted to golf. He plays it every day – and yesterday, he played it twice. He is also addicted to work (even though he hates his job). He is OCD about both right now. I guess it’s better than the alternatives.
Interesting about your h (how long was his “short” recovery?) Is he back to his SA now?
Deb
May 4, 2012 at 8:00 pm #36223nap
ParticipantOh gosh Deb my h is really hard core addicted. He’d been seeing prostitutes for 10 yrs even before we married. When I found out about his addiction in Oct 2010 i made him go to the psychologist in town who specializes in it and did individual and group therapy (men only). Well, when she heard his history she told him he needed to go away for 2 mo to a treatment center she recommended before he could begin outpt. He told his boss (not for what) and he was approved the time off. He toldy daughters he was going away then 2 wks went by and he never left (asshole).
Anyway, she and him worked out an outpt plan. I quess be was sober 2 months, started drinking and became very, very, very OCD plus he was out working in the yard 4 hrs on weekdays after work and 12 hrs on the weekends it was totally bizarre. He seemed manic to me.
Then about 5 months in he started to skip hiseetimgs to go have sex with random women (hookers, massage sex parlors. and Internet hook ups). I found this out via his sponcer calling asking where he’s been then me confronting him. When a few weeks later I found his profile looking for an 18 yr old to be her ” sugardaddy” I was tossed out. Not much of a recovery plus towards the end I think he was adding meth to the mix. A lot of sex workers use it and turn their johns onto it. He was literally crazy during the divorce, lost his good job, and has been in a severe depression since the divorce. He’s been back meds and heard he is now able to get out of bed and function. He said ” he fucked up” and he did.
May 4, 2012 at 8:09 pm #36224972
MemberThe Csat told him not to drink at all for 30 days. He has still not had a drink to my knowledge (been about 8/9 weeks). Feb.24 was the last hooker I found out about before I confronted him the next night.
He was never a big drinker or a very good one anyway. I know that he told me he was “wasted” when he called hookers. I know that is partially true because I had the PI report that detailed his drinks before hooker…
I am almost certain ( wouldn`t bet the farm) that he has replaced sex with work ( which he has always been a workaholic. Hookers aren`t cheap!). And he has been going to something positive, in his words, every other day. Therapy, meetings..etc..
He has thrown a ton of time and effort into the kids. He is especially focused on rebuilding a relationship with my son. Turns out I was right, he was picking on the kid and the child darn well knew it. I had tried to talk to him about this behavior a million times. Guess what? I was wrong, crazy, blah blah…
I believe he wants to change. I just don`t believe he can.
I agree with Nap and Dr. Phil. You replace one addiction/habit with another.
May 4, 2012 at 8:22 pm #36225march
ParticipantIt’s true, but it’s also fine–as long as it’s a positive addiction. When I stopped drinking, I had this huge vortex of time to fill, all those evening hours I’d spent boozing. I had to find something else to do, something else to focus on, so I took up crocheting, something I hadn’t done since I was about 10. I made scarves for EVERYBODY! I was so addicted, I even crocheted in the car, at red lights. Later, I picked up jewelry making, mostly charm bracelets, and I’m still on a crafts kick. All of these things are much healthier and more productive than “using.”
May 5, 2012 at 7:57 am #36226debinca
ParticipantNAP – sorry to hear about your SAH (but glad you don’t have to live with him anymore)….my SAH told me that his favorite pro (the one he thought he “loved”) used drugs to “numb” out. I’ve wondered if she turned him onto anything – but probably not because he’s so paranoid about anything interfering with his epilepsy meds.
Bev – my SAH is also a workaholic. He hates his current job yet he is obsessed. Between golf and work, there isn’t much time left for me and the kids. I read that Love Avoidants find activities that will prevent intimacy…..sounds like my SAH! Today all he could talk about is golf – although he went to the store to get me some cold stuff – and tea. It’s good that your SAH is doing something “positive” every other day. And it’s good to be skeptical that he can change – it’s a tough road and most don’t make it. Time will tell.
Someone in another post talked about Dr. Doug Weiss. I get his ads – is his material useful? I was thinking about getting his partner’s workbook so just wondering.
March – great that you found some positive addictions. I keep thinking that every time I feel like eating sugar (my addiction) that I should go take a walk. So far it hasn’t happened…
Deb
May 6, 2012 at 4:45 am #36227diane
ParticipantMy idiot did what NAP’s did–started drinking hard liquor, which he never did before. I went nuts and pointed it out, and named what it was, but what’s the use? They just can’t live without ruining everything for everyone else. So I told him to leave. Then I sold the house and moved. Now he’s just addicted to his superiority. How dumb is that. He can’t get through a day without hanging onto his weewee for dear life, but he’s superior???!!!
May 6, 2012 at 10:39 am #36228teri
ParticipantSo, is that the best case scenario, if you stay- that they will replace a their SA for a healthy addiction? Instead of leaving you and the kids to screw prostitutes, they will leave you to go to work or play golf? It still sounds pretty lonely to me. And will they still have the lack of empathy, blaming, paranoia, and refusing to take responsibility that goes with addiction?
May 6, 2012 at 8:28 pm #36229debinca
ParticipantTeri – pretty sad, isn’t it? That’s what I’ve been grappling with lately – not his outrageous behavior (pros, CL ads, affairs) but the reason behind it – that he can’t be close to anyone. Yuck! What’s even more concerning is that I didn’t notice it and it didn’t feel that uncomfortable. I guess on some level, I was lonely – but I just numbed out – just like I did when I was a baby in foster care (it goes deep!), and when my mom never paid any attention to me growing up. It’s an old habit – I wouldn’t recognize real intimate love if it knocked me in the head.
So – as I heal, hopefully I will want and recognize intimacy and I won’t settle with the morsels from behind a wall that I currently get with my SAH. Over the last few days, I’m seeing it more and more. He runs off to play golf, or to do just about anything than to spend quality time with me or the kids. He’s ADD so that makes him even less attentive. He loves to live behind his “wall”. He even likes to play golf alone most of the time.
His blaming, paranoia, gas lighting, etc. has gone away in the past month (and even his narcissism) but I know that can come back at any time so I’m on high alert.
So – not sure the answer to this…perhaps some of you with SAs with intimacy issues that are further in recovery can answer this? I’d be interested to hear.
Deb
May 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm #36230972
MemberThey are damaged goods. They may “recover” from the sex addict stuff , but they will never be normal by any stretch of the imagination. I think I excused ( gaslighted and minimized) the lack of intimacy because it was easier to ignore than to confront.
My H is absolutely begging me to walk him thru the steps to become close to his children. I do it for their sake but I just shake my head at the insanity.
It`s sorta like a stroke victim. They can rehab and function but they are not right.
May 6, 2012 at 10:49 pm #36231debinca
ParticipantOh Bev – you are so right. They are like a stroke victim. They will never be all together “right”, and they left a lot of carnage in their path.
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