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  • #3721
    joann
    Participant

    We have a new Sister! Here is what she wrote in her profile:

    I believe my husband of 15 years is a sex addict. I have recently discovered his extensive stash of porn and his secret cell phone. I’ve been lurking on marriedtoasexaddict.com for a few weeks and finally decided I needed the support of this group.

    Welcome Ready. You have come to the right place for friendship, comfort, information, sharing and a lot of insight as well as a little humor.

    Read the forums and comments, share your story or just jump right in on a chat. Our arms and hearts are open to you for anything you need.

    #19398
    b-trayed
    Participant

    Hi Ready,

    I am so happy you are joining us. I love these sisters! They are loving, honest, funny, inspiring, and much more!

    I don’t know what state you live in, but we are getting together in Indiana next weekend. We would love to meet you or even skype if you want.

    I am so, so sorry for your trauma and betrayal. Hopefully we can help you in your pain, anger, and grief.

    Much love, B. Trayed

    #19399
    diane
    Participant

    Hi RtoLA,
    Thank you for joining in. I also lurked on the Married site for quite a while before I ever posted. I was terrified of being exposed. Nutty stuff.
    I’m sorry you ended up here because of the pain you’ve already experienced, but I know there are a lot of wise women here who are trying a lot of different things to put their lives back together–some with their partners and some on their own. Some of us tried to make it work but finally had to bow out of the relationship. There’s lot of variety and different stages present here. I hope you will soon feel the support of these wonderful, funny, smart, and charming women. (hey, I guess I’m including myself!)
    Diane.

    #19400
    silver-lining
    Participant

    Welcome Ready! 

    You came to the right place! Glad to meet you but sorry for the circumstances, as we all are. 

    I like to encourage the new sisters to go to the “Stories” group and read some history in each of us. For one thing, it’s an eye opener, but more importantly  you will see that you are not alone or crazy. You will also see that we have no shame and there is no judgment here. 

    I hope you post often and looking forward to getting to know you! I REALLY like your screen name! Get your life back, girl! 

    In sisterly love, 

    SL

    #19401
    stillstanding
    Participant

    Hi Ready to Live Again, (love the name!)

    I’m so happy you found us! This is a great group of women you found – they are all so very strong. I’m pretty new here to. So, sit back, get comfy and chime in when you’re ready 🙂

    Hugs,
    SS

    #19402
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Welcome Ready to Live Again,
    Believe me, you’ve come to the right place. I know you’ll find lots of comfort, support and information here, as I have. Jump right in!
    With love, Zumbagirl

    #19403
    readytoliveagain
    Participant

    Hi, all! Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I’m so sorry we’re meeting under such horrible circumstances, too, but look forward to supporting and being supported here. I’ll post more about me as I find my way around (I guess under “Stories”???) but to answer B. Trayed’s question, I am in SC and while I would love to meet all of you in Indiana next weekend, with a 9 year old and limited finances I cannot see taking that long of a drive right now. Perhaps Skype would work!

    quick facts about me: I am still living with my SA. (I started to use the old DH and decided that was no longer how I wanted to be connected to him.) We will have been married for 15 years in November. We have a 9 yo DD, who is the light of my life. I discovered his extensive magazine and VHS collection right after we married and he threw it all away, went to counseling, and declared it was all over. Little did I know.

    After the birth of our DD, I quit my job to become a stay at home mom. Our sex life, for many reasons, became nonexistent. And truthfully, I knew he had to have some sort of outlet, but I really didn’t think a lot about it or care.

    Until I found a message on the phone I pay for (the one he carries around… the one I’m *supposed* to know about) that read “my text phone is down. try tom. Kisses.”

    And that fateful day a month ago led to the rest of the discovery: a secret reloadable cell phone, a portable DVD player that he keeps in his car, over 200 porn DVDs, and texts and pictures sent from a woman that works at the bank on the same block as his work.

    I have NOT confronted him about this, as without his salary, I have no funds. I have spent the last month trying to put together money to leave. I have an appointment next Tuesday with an attorney. I don’t even have enough money to pay her retainer yet, but I know I need legal advice. (I believe he may be stealing from his work and need to make sure I will not be held complicit if I don’t go forward immediately.)

    And I need to make sure I am doing all I can to take care of my DD. So, for her sake, I will suck up and kiss ass and hold the peace so that I can save money and pack secretly and save more money and sell off items secretly and save still more money.

    I have safe places to go if I need to leave immediately, although I don’t think he would physically harm either of us. He’s never hit (or hinted that he would hit) her or me.

    But, I’ve never thought he was this sick. I never imagined what had been right under my nose all this time. I am still very much angry and disallusioned by what has unfolded recently.

    I will not stay any longer than I have to. Certainly I expect some support from him, child support and perhaps even spousal support since I gave up my career for him (early in our marriage) and our DD (later in our marriage), but if he really is stealing from his work, he won’t have a job for very long… and there goes my support. So, i have to tread carefully, save where I can, and figure out how to support DD and me without his income.

    So I am truly Ready To Live Again. I look forward to finding my own strength and showing my DD how much a woman can accomplish when she sets her mind to it. I want to be a good role model for her. And it starts with this decision, to not take less than what I deserve from my marriage. Because that’s exactly what I want for her. And dammit, I’d be so angry with her if she stayed in a loveless, sacrificial marriage—so I have to leave… because I would want her to also.

    Okay, that wasn’t short, but at least you know some more about me and how I fit into this sisterhood. Again, thanks for the warm welcome. I’m so happy to have found you!!
    Paula

    #19404
    kmf
    Member

    Dear Paula,

    WELCOME!!! How brave and smart you are by recognizing in that instant of discovery that you now must immediately fend for yourself and your daughter. You are a much bigger woman than me, as I almost ALWAYS react, BUT what you are doing is so much better than what I do? We KNOW what you feel? What you do about it has to come from you BUT we will hold you up every step of the way. You are in great company here. Wonderful, feisty women who have been beaten down at each turn but who REFUSE to stay down. And yes….we know it is hard to breath, hard to get up in the morning and hard to ever imagine waking up NOT thinking about what he did to you….BUT you will. HUGS Karen xx

    #19405
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Paula,
    You are one strong woman, and an amazing role model for your daughter. I had nowhere near your insight right after my discoveries. You go, girl!!!
    xoxo Julie

    #19406
    readytoliveagain
    Participant

    Thanks, Karen and Julie. I don’t know that I was all that brave, smart and insightful. I really wanted to scream and rant and rave and throw things. I wanted to kill him.

    BUT, and maybe this wasn’t clear from my previous post, but I didn’t find everything at once. The message on the cell phone was first, but all of the other pieces came over a 10 day- 2 week period. And I’m still searching. I’m not at all sure I’ve found it all. I have torn apart the attic and our garage. I haven’t found anything in those places… but that doesn’t mean anything. :/

    And I still want to confront him, to throttle him, to kill him. But, I keep reminding myself that none of those will change this situation, none of those will allow me to take care of my child. None of those will pay my bills. And none of those will make him pay for the grief he’s put me through in the past, the grief he’s putting me through now, and the grief he will put me through in the future. And I am nothing if not vengeful. I will extract my pound of flesh from him. He will pay and suffer greatly. And I remind myself of that every time he smiles at me, every time he tries to make conversation, every time I have to be nice to him. How much I will make him pay. And HOW I will make him pay. Oh, I dream of revenge. And I dream of peace. Without him.

    And as far as insight… well, I did deal with his crap almost 15 years ago, right after we got married. AND, I did have a friend just go through a nasty divorce, so I guess it’s fair to say that because of just an always-there uneasy feeling and general discontent with our relationship, divorce (while certainly not a discussion he and I have ever entertained) has been on my mind a lot for a long time.

    So I may not deserve all the kind adjectives… but I will admit to conniving, vengeful, and exacting. And determined beyond words. 🙂

    #19407
    silver-lining
    Participant

    Hmmmmm…… Conniving, vengeful, exacting and determined…..

    Paula, you are my kind of girl!! You and I are a little different from the rest with the fact that we both had a D day and then kept to ourselves until we had our ducks in a row! VERY hard to do, especially when all you can think of is wringing his neck and spitting in his face!! 

    Be sure to have stress releases and by all means, use this site as one of your outlets! I do on a daily basis!! That is way too much information to keep bottled up inside!! 

    I’m so proud of you!! Hang in there and get your dirty work done so you can set yourself free!! XO!!! 

    #19408
    nap
    Participant

    Paula, welcome to SOS and sharing your story. You sound very clear and I admire your courage and strength to do what is best for you and your daughter. Wishing you all the best and please feel at home here we really care and support each other.
    Love, Nap

    #19409
    lexie
    Participant

    Hi Ready,

    A warm welcome to the sisterhood. I gather that DD stands for developmentally disabled? I have a son with high functioning autism who’s 16 and another with AD/HD who’s 21. BTW, its extremely common for there to be children with neurological differences if one or both parents are addicts.

    My story is a lot like yours in many ways. They often get caught at some point and claim to have “stopped.” not. We trust. We find out more, days, months, years, decades later and we are sent into a tail spin the likes I have never ever experienced. I was already on here… long story, (husband suggested I date, and I became involved with a hideous SA which left me devastated, as well) so my D-DAY actually unfolded ONLINE. I am planning on divorcing my husband because I cannot see spending the next whatever years with him. Our finances are shit which is one of the primary factors in my leaving him. It was that his sexual NEEDS to took number priority over supporting his family. Actually, I did support the family, entirely for 2.5 years. I thought he was helping me, but no… he was helping himself.

    loser.

    Oh, and never apologize for something being “too long.” There is no such thing. It is as long as it needs to be.

    until you have said everything that you need to say.

    my best and love,

    Lexie

    #19410
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Hi Lexie! I’m jumping on ahead of Ready here, so Ready correct me if I’m wrong, but in this case, DD is probably lingo for Darling Daughter (whereas DH would me Darling Husband). Sometimes you’ll see a husband referred to as an SADH. Not by me, though, thank you very much! 🙂

    #19411
    readytoliveagain
    Participant

    Thanks for the continued welcomes. I’m trying to find the time to write up my entire story… hehehe…. it might take a few days. With constant company around, I don’t have a lot of privacy on the weekends.

    DD does equal Darling Daughter. Thanks ZG for that help. And, certainly, I won’t be using DH for my soon-to-be Ex. Not ever again. Ugh.

    I am not sure I mentioned this earlier, but I am meeting with an attorney Tuesday and am frantically reading everything here that I can find on divorce: settlements, financial arrangements, custody battles…. I have read through the posts on the Divorce Forum and am devouring all of the other forums too, hoping to glean information that will help me in this battle. I did confirm with a friend who recently used the same attorney that she (the attorney) is indeed ruthless and bloodthirsty, as someone here suggested. However, I do live in SC, where everything is done the GOB (Good Ol’ Boy) way, so I don’t expect to be able to get full custody or keep him from having visitation. Unless I blackmail him and keep his dirty secrets from being aired. Hmmmm….

    Does anyone have any advice about successfully using blackmail? I’m sure my attorney will have an opinion, but would love any advice you might have.

    I’m also voraciously searching the internet for any kind of “schedule” (bad word but I can’t think of a better one) of escalation and how his age + stress + other addictions might play into each other.

    He is addicted to tobacco. He’ll be 49 this year and has been using since middle school. He is a recovering alcoholic (who hated AA, BTW, and stopped after only a few months.) He has been sober for 17 years. He did go to a therapist 14 years ago when I first discovered his porn, but never to my knowledge did any of the steps I’ve read about your SAs doing. Of course, back then, SA wasn’t really talked about or even truly acknowledged. So his SA has really not ever been addressed adequately nor treated successfully, obviously!

    Is there a connection with all of these that has led to his current secret phone/affair and porn stash?

    Are there any statistics about the multitude of addictions connecting and thriving on each other?

    Will he escalate further without intervention?

    Is my daughter in danger?

    Oh, I should mention the porn he has now is all DVDs and a few (12 or so, that I’ve found) magazines. He doesn’t have access to a computer. So all of this has been purchased!! UGH. No wonder we’re in the dire financial straits we’re in.

    And the porn isn’t just normal, nubile women porn. There’s older women porn. 40something, 50something, 60something porn. And, yes, I am 40something…. but ….

    And there’s some “Barely Legal” porn. Not as much as the older women, but some.

    So, is that indicative of an escalation? Does that mean he’ll move to child porn? Abuse? Again, worried about my daughter and trying to think of every angle I can to keep him away from her. Forever. Because I know if he so much as thought of her in *that* way, I’d kill him. And then she would have lost both parents to this addiction, and that would be very horrible indeed.

    So very tired of him, so very ready to be rid of him. And so worried for my DD, who like all of us and our children, deserves NONE of this crap. 🙁

    #19412
    lexie
    Participant

    DH = DF

    Darling Fucktard 😉

    We love vulgarity on SOS, so don’t be shy. Please find the heading called “lexiecon” LOL— We also love to laugh. And in our despair, we find a lot of humor– because its all so G-D disgusting, that if we don’t laugh, its all over!

    DF is hooked, alright. Well, some dudes like REAL women, and some can only get off with fake women. so be it. not gonna be your problem, very soon.

    To try to answer your questions:

    Here is what I think, in [ ]

    Is there a connection with all of these that has led to his current secret phone/affair and porn stash?

    [Yes– He has an addictive personality.]

    Are there any statistics about the multitude of addictions connecting and thriving on each other?

    [not sure about that one, but Bill Wilson, founder of AA had multiple addictions and replaced booze with women. (the infamous “13th step” in the bedroom…hehehe)] 🙁

    Will he escalate further without intervention?

    [WITHOUT ANY DOUBT ABOUT IT WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

    😉

    Is my daughter in danger?

    [If he’s a porn addict… YES! 🙁 If you found it… Guess what? So will she. I just found out that my now, 21 yr old son, found daddy’s porn, 10 years ago…sittin’ right on top of the ol’ DVD player– fuckin’ wonderful!] ;(

    Oh, I should mention the porn he has now is all DVDs and a few (12 or so, that I’ve found) magazines. He doesn’t have access to a computer. So all of this has been purchased!! UGH. No wonder we’re in the dire financial straits we’re in.

    [sucks]

    And the porn isn’t just normal, nubile women porn. There’s older women porn. 40something, 50something, 60something porn. And, yes, I am 40something…. but ….

    And there’s some “Barely Legal” porn. Not as much as the older women, but some.

    So, is that indicative of an escalation?


    Does that mean he’ll move to child porn? Abuse?

    [he might and he might not. he could move to trannies, and gay men, donkeys, cock roaches— who knows?]

    Again, worried about my daughter and trying to think of every angle I can to keep him away from her. Forever.

    [move to France]

    Because I know if he so much as thought of her in *that* way, I’d kill him.

    [private message me; I’ll come and help you]

    And then she would have lost both parents to this addiction, and that would be very horrible indeed.

    [oh, honey— I feel for you. Several months ago, I found that my h had looked at 100s of photos of our niece (his sister’s daughter, all in one sitting… and she is a very nubile, busty, skinny, girl with a radiant smile. sucks. I think this would best be handled with your lawyer–]

    PS: skanky men who smoke, have a higher percentage of contracting and passing on HPV… oh, and if he says that its “JUST” porn and sexy chat… very, very, very unlikely. It almost always leads to real live sex.

    eeewww…

    sorry, honey. You are doing the right thing for yourself AND DD (glad she’s not developmentally disabled!– just another layer, some of us are going through) ;(

    Kids are resilient, though. And she will admire you and know that this kind of behavior is not to be tolerated or condoned–ever. You are a strong woman. I can tell. You are going to pull yourself out of this mess and be all the better for it! Again, welcome!!!

    my best,

    Lexie

    #19413
    silver-lining
    Participant

    Dear Ready, 

    I might be able to help you with the blackmail thing. I wouldn’t use that word with your attorney tho, unless she says it first. It might make her nervous because, well, it IS illegal but there are subtle ways around it! 

    I don’t want to bore the ladies that have heard my tactics a thousand times, but if you want to message me your number, I can call you to discuss in the next couple of days before your appt. If you give me your cell number, let me know if you text. That way, I can check first and be sure it’s a good time to call!! 

    Always willing to help a sister!! 

    Love, 

    Patty

    #19414
    lexie
    Participant

    Its not boring Patty. Its educational, and possibly vital.

    One of my tactics, well, at least with Predator, was to make up a phony profile, and chat with him as if I was “fresh meat”–LOL.

    I have fantasies of doing that with my husband (although he didn’t place that many ads) and get him all hot and bothered and dying to SCREW me! I could drive him stark raving bonkers… if he only had LET ME.

    if…

    I often said, “one man’s madonna is another man’s whore.”
    Its all in the mind and if the mind is fucked up, then…

    Oh, Lexie, Laurel, whatever the hell your name is– 😉 For the love of God, let’s not rehash why he would prefer something not real???

    Fake woman for a fake man. 🙁

    #19415
    lylo
    Participant

    Welcome Paula. You have sprinted past most women who would have so recently found themselves in your predicament! Please take time and care to nurture yourself and tend to your wounds, as well.

    It is not a coincidence that your h gave up on aa and ended up with a different drug of choice. Mine can’t really bear to look at the family of origin issues that helped get him here, and has now acknowledged that he is really struggling with a new found love of tequila. Great.

    #19416
    kmf
    Member

    Dear Paula,

    How well blackmail works depends on what your husband wants to protect? Some Sa are just really good at twisting and lying so they somehow end up looking like the wounded party and others seem to be phobic about other people finding out about their secret life? Also depends on the kind of work they do, their standing in the community and what kind of smut you can dig up? I say use everything you can and anything you can BUT do not doing anything that could backfire on you. SL should have good advice. If you want him assassinated, I know a few countries where you can go on a vacation with him and get the job done cheap. Of course, I am only joking 😉
    Dear Lylo, is your husband drinking? That is not good dear heart 🙁 Lowers the inhibitions and makes a GREAT excuse. You doing ok Lylo? xx Karen

    #19417
    lylo
    Participant

    Of course you are joking, Karen. Ummm, which countries were you joking about?? 😉

    Thank you for your concern. I’m doing alright, but I am moving into my mothers house for the next week (she’s in skilled nursing recovering from surgery) so that I can get some distance and really consider which direction to go. Its so complicated because I have worked for his family since I was 22 (30 yrs) and have no money of my own and he doesn’t have anything in his name. I don’t want that to be a factor but it’s the reality.

    You know, he attempted to inject drinking into this before but I pointed out that he wasn’t drunk when he got into his car and went to womens’ homes or motels. Maybe he drank before they had sex, but he was going to with or without the stupid drink. Puleeze. No excuses. He seems to be determined to nip this tequila thing in the bud. We’ll see…
    Hope you are doing well? L

    #19418
    silver-lining
    Participant

    Hi Lylo!!! 

    I have missed you so! Every night I want to start a post that says, Where’s Lylo!??? (Kinda like Where’s Waldo, if you remember THAT) 🙂 

    Glad to see you posting!! Good luck with your latest….. Sigh….

    XOXOXO!!!!! 

    #19419
    silver-lining
    Participant

    By the way, thanks L, L, or L (whatever your name is!!) I’ll be sure to educate you plenty over the wknd!! 🙂
    And your husband is an idiot -(NEWSFLASH) –

    You’re hot and you know you’re hot!!! Lol! (Private joke with me and Zgirl) – fill ya in later!! 

    Thanks for your vote of confidence, Karen. Lord knows I should be the expert on BM by NOW!! I have held my tongue long enough around this house!  But it shall be forthcoming VERRRY soon, as negotiations are starting! 🙂

    Lylo,  I think the little getaway is a great idea!! Please post often if you are able to, so maybe we can help you in some way!! 

    I hope your Mom is doing ok and will be on the mend quickly!! Thinking of you often….. 

    SL

    #19420
    lylo
    Participant

    Hi Silver! Thank you so much, my late night buddy! I will certainly be leaning on you all during this time. Kind of focused on my mom right now too, though she is an 86 year old power house.

    You know, I remember your first posts and I am in awe of how you can keep up this charade. This is movie material. Im sure that it is so hard to imagine this scenario when you look at your wedding pics. I hope you kept notes You could write a how-to/memoir and give up the day job. XO Lylo

    #19421
    silver-lining
    Participant

    Ha! Ha! Lylo, 

    Funny you should mention that. I would love to write a book and am trying to enlist some other sisters in joining me. Together, I think we could make a huge impact- to raise awareness and to help us in our healing. I haven’t given up! Just trying to get through this nightmare first! Ugh! It’s about to peak and then the wind down.. (I can’t wait)! 
    So glad to have you back on and really happy to hear your Mom sounds like a strong lady! Hang in there!!! XO!! 

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