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  • #3007
    nap
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    If you had a daughter or a good friend who was going to marry a man who was an admitted sex addict, would you say anything, and if so, what would you tell her?

    #10899
    lylo
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    Hi NAP
    My knee-jerk response is ‘Run like the wind!!!’ but it really depends on where this person was in their recovery and how committed to it he was. If I am unable to move forward with my husband, I really think the next person he is with would be a lucky lady. I remember crying to my mother about this – that it just wouldn’t be fair that someone else could have a loving relationship with this man that I have cherished and cared for all of these years and she wouldn’t have this horrible heartache. Sounds selfish, I know. Bottom line is that if someone is an admitted addict, they are probably in recovery. The commitment to it would be key.

    #10900
    flora
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    Yes, i would tell her. Give her the books, point her ti this site, and wish her luck. Most liekly it would be hard for her to hear or she may be suspect and it would all make sense. So my answer is yes, i would tell. And i would tell all that I know about it. I would also recomend that she does not get married to such a man as the disease is a symptom of underlying disorders.

    #10901
    debora
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    NAP – If it was my children, a close friend or someone who came to me for information, I would share what I have learned and direct them to resources so they can inform themselves. Most women do not understand the concept of sex addiction and how deep the rabbit hole can go. Did he disclose to her or just admit in a SA group? Last week I went to an SA partner group and met a new woman 44, who has been married two years. she has had crazymaking trouble in the marraige and in talking stepchild arrangements with the exwife found out about his porn and cross-dressing issues. Now she’s all, “I believe he’s changed, yadda,” but she has moved out 3 times in two years because of his anger and control, etc. Even if he’s not acting out he has the dry drunk syndrome. That’s no fun to live with either. Would she have married him, sold her house and quit her job, if she had known? I know I would want someone to tell me. And if I entered a new relationdhip, I would have a talk with his exwife and get to know his good friends. I wish I had done that with this marraige.

    Lylo – I think the very same thing about him moving on and him having a wonderful new relationship with another woman, while I am stuck in a low paying job and going to school at 54 to get a career. Truthfully though, I don’t think his new relationship will play out that way. It might be fabulous during the courtship, but eventually we all show who we really are. I’ve seen this over and over in relationships around me. My SA carried his baggage from one relationship to another. The older they are it seems they are less likely to change as well. We saw my husbands former wife at a wedding years ago, we sat in the family section, she sat farther away with her children from a new marraige. She kept looking at us and crying, like it should have been her there. We looked so good, but I was now living her life, and she must have forgotten what that was like. Before he asked me to marry him, he asked her if they could reconcile and first she laughed at him and then she cried. He moved all his crap over to my life. It is not easy to make these life decisions. I’m struggling to face the truth about what has happened in my marraige and do whatever I can with my husband to resolve these issues, but it is all up to him to admit, do his work and initiate change. It’s been a year since the first bout of violence and six months since the porn bomb and he still hasn’t acknowledged the SA concept or been willing to look at the material and consider more targeted therapy. Denial. And how long do we do this wait and see while our lives pass us by? I think it is good to journal or at least make a list of things they do and say, so that if the time comes that you have to leave, you can remind yourself why you left.

    #10902
    nap
    Participant

    Hi Lylo, Flora, and Debora,

    Lylo, I have thought that too. What if he moves on and the next person he is with has the relationship I always wanted with him. In my case, I dont think that would happen. Like Debora said, they bring it too the next relationship, especially if they havent done the recovery work. Your husband sounds like he is in a good recovery, is remorseful, and understands his addiction and the pain it has caused. Im happy for you Lylo and was wondering how long it has been since D day and how long his recovery has been? Also, was he committed from the start or did it take a while? I see my husband working at it, however, I know he is struggling. I know, in his heart he loves me and doesnt want to be a SA and lose our marriage.

    Flora, I agree, education about it is key. It gives the whole picture of what is involved. I would also tell her what I knew and of my experience. Its a very difficult addiction to live with as all addictions are. I wouldnt recommend it, however it would be their decision.

    Debora, all the information you shared is so helpful. The lady at your meeting, we can see her road ahead and shes not fully aware of her future…however, being where we are, we know what she has ahead of her. I would have wanted to know too. I think talking to the ex wife is a good idea and I would do that too. Like your husband, mine has a long way to go, I hope he can do it, I know it must be hard to change this after all these years. I like your journal idea. I had a lady at a womans shelter tell me once: “Remember how it feels” because that is the truth without rationalizing. When they do violence or something mean, always remember how it feels.

    #10903
    lylo
    Participant

    Kudos to you Debora and all of you who are sometimes hopeful, but still building your own foundation for your future. I really admire you. I love the idea about journaling and regret that I didn’t do it earlier. My husband was married for a year before me and I knew her. I remember feeling badly that she would look at us also and feel like I was in her spot. Then last year I couldn’t help but think ‘she got out in her early twenties!’ How amazing that a single conversation in my backyard has re-colored my whole adult life. I’m sure it was like that for all of us.

    That Dday was Sept 09 and there have been additional revelations about the past since. He said his recovery began that moment and that the power of confessing was key to him facing what he was and how he wanted his life to be from that moment on. He struggles with his narcissism and selfishness but is sincere about wanting to transform himself into a man of integrity. He felt that he was probably ending his marriage by telling me but I asked a pointed question about an incident and he finally had to let it go. He just couldn’t live in the mud anymore. I so wish that for all of you. It is so painful for me just to deal with the past and I pray for strength and wisdom for those of you that still have the acting out or honesty issues that some of you are facing, especially those with young children.

    #10904
    jaded
    Participant

    Well,about 2 years ago while we were sitting on the beach watching my granddaughters play my daughter turned to me and said “Mom,—- has the same problem as dad”..omg..my heart sank..my daughter has been another victim of this horrific addiction….this is not my husbands biological daughter but her raised her since she was 2…I could have told her to run,run as fast as you can and take the girls with you..but she wouldn’t have listened to me anyhow..her husband has now been in a pretty solid recovery since then(or so I am continued to be told)..she like me didn’t find out til 10 years into the marriage,her husband like mine started with porn very early,both came from similar parental backgrounds..

    So for me it would depend on the person and the situation…I would rather my daughter leave and cut her losses but they seem to be both committed so who am I to say..I’ve been with this SA for 35yrs..I feel like I have a lot of experience and I feel like I have no experience…if that makes sense….

    #10905
    nap
    Participant

    Hi all,
    Jaded, it does make sense. This life can be so limboish. What I do know, I wished I didnt, and what I don’t know, I wished I did…I don’t know if that makes sense and I don’t know if I know what sense is anymore. I’m having a bad day (life).

    #10906
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi NAP – sorry you are having a bad day. It seems like we have a lot of those, doesn’t it.
    Perk up – this too shall pass.
    Love to you.

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