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December 17, 2013 at 1:58 am #120140
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MemberIf he says , ” you’re not being nice” then you respond with “no, I’m not. I tried nice and look where that got me.”
If he continues to talk just walk away. If he says that means you don’t love him say “no, I don’t love you. I tried that and look where that got me”.
If he says you should say to him that his hair or whatever looks good then say “no, I won’t say that. I tried being complementary and look where that got me”.
One brief sentence followed by ” and look where that got me..”
He will finally say ” You don’t want to be married then leave and leave the girls with me”. You respond, ” No, you leave. I won’t leave the girls alone with you. Look where that got me.”
December 17, 2013 at 2:00 am #120141972
MemberAnd don’t answer any more texts about where you are. He knows where you are.
Send one text back every time “I am the same place you left me”
Or “I am thinking about sex with the UPS guy”. 🙂
December 17, 2013 at 11:53 am #120142girliewhirlies
Memberthanks.. and thanks for the laugh.. I defnitely need strategies.. I try and boundary and he just says something else equally as terrible.. like he calls me an ahole.. and I say I am walking away if you call me names, and he says.. well, if you are acting like an ahole, then you are one.so there is no boundary there.. I mean , I walked away. bc saying to stop and why only gets more abuse.. it doesn’t stop it.. walking away and putting on my ipod does.. I know I should tell him not to do it point blank,, but doing that makes it worse.. at least walking away with the ipod on helps me to not hear him and takes me away from the abuse.. I guess in a normal situation, you could say don’t call me an ahole or I will walk away , but with him. he feels justified bc he thinks I am acting like one wtf… I guess he feels justified in cheating on me too or doing who knows what.. he keeps saying how great of a husband he is and how he is my best friend and noone loves me more than him.. then how come when I am around him, I feel like I have to be on the ready to leave the room.. when I am with my daughters , i always feel loved and cherished even when we have a fight.. anyway, thanks for the great advice and for the laugh about the ups guy.. hahahahah
December 17, 2013 at 12:09 pm #120143kmf
MemberGirlie, I didn’t mean for you to leave and go to a shelter. I just meant for you to find someone to talk to about what is happening to you? You want strategies? Domestic abuse therapists have strategies about how to handle an abuser. Go see a lawyer and find out exactly what power you have in your state. If adultery counts, then get a PI. It doesn’t sound like you would have to look very far to catch him cheating? All abusers escalate their abuse once they sense that they are losing control. He actually has NO CONTROL over you other than the control you give him. I could help you to shut the prick down in about 5 minutes BUT….not if there is ANY chance that he will introduce physical abuse into the situation. Has he ever been physical with you or your daughters?
December 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm #120144girliewhirlies
Memberno, he has never been physical with me or my daughters.. it just seems like the verbal abuse is escalating and like I told Bev, other strange behaviours too.. like being upset if I compliment one of the kids and not him.. or if one of the kids compliments me and not him.. I am so happy that he finally left for work.. I was never like that before.. but phew I know I have a break … and if he works late/ or whatever it is that he does until 10pm ,, then I have a big break.. I still text him to see what time he is coming home, and even with that he will text back he doesn’t know? this is at 6pm.. what does he mean that he doesn’t know? wtf? should I just stop caring/ texting what time he will be home.. I guess I just want to know mentally when to expect him.. but really I would like to be out of that dance too.. and if he does happen to give a time, like last night he said 7,, and arrived at 10.. sent a text saying he would be late.. but what the heck is the point? I feel like I just want to give him enough rope to hang himself.. wtf.. anyway, thanks for the help.. I am trying to visualize myself giving him the power in a box/ present.. and keeping it myself.. so that is helpful too.. who needs all of this? and why on earth isn’t he stressed out leading this kind of life for himself..? I am not living his life.. but the fallout from it effects me all day.. I am waiting for the fallout to come onto him wtf?
December 18, 2013 at 5:14 pm #120145desiree-larson
MemberGW,
So glad you are posting here. The sisters are giving you great suggestions and information.What is so hard is when you are dependent and so intertwined with these abusers, especially as they tank. They know the situation and will use,that,dependency like Chinese thumb torture. So, holding your cards close to your chest is the best idea. It takes practice. You will get better with time.
Some tidbits from my 20 plus years with a SA RAT. I tried nice for a long, long, long time. All it got me was the worst ending ever. He went into total psycho rage the last 6 months of living with him. That was with “expert” therapy for over 15 years that he faked and lied his way through. Still managed to blame me till the bitter, damn end. BASTARD.
Finally, I cracked during the period I was trying to figure out how to get him out. I got really, really sick with acute stress syndrome, a form of PTSD. Used the help of three grown sons and a crises line to strategize getting him out permanently starting immediately because I was so suddenly so sick – traumatized by the abusive atmosphere of fear, blame, the unknown and financial threats. And, I am a very, very nice person. It never mattered to him except to use me as a cover for his double life.
Anyway GW – can you take in what the wise sisters are saying and make a secret safety plan for leaving. Leaving (or arranging to have him leave) is the most dangerous time so don’t give him info so he can make more plans to hurt you.
Just a few weeks ago, I had to lock my schizophrenic, substances abusing brother out of the house I owned on his behalf because he escalated his lying and his abusive (verbal, emotional) to me. In essence he moved out and let drug using transients abuse the house at will and said he was going on vacation. He planned to live somewhere else and let others use his house long term and maybe earn money and drug perks while lying, lying, lying to me. And, blame me for all sorts of things to distract me from the reality of the present. Boy did he let loose. I have been afraid a of him increasingly.
So I am hiding my location from him. I have hired men to take care of his house, I do not intend to go there, ever. I am communicating through a third party permanently so I never have to hear his abusive accusations again.
What I am trying to communicate here is that abusers make us think differently if we are to save ourselves and everything we care about. They will literally destroy everything in their path.
I always thought I would participate in keeping stable housing for my brother, even as he aged. Never dreamed I would lock him out of the very thing that represented how much I cared about him. I am nice. I would never do,that. Right? Well, be the was banking on that…….while he abused me. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
These drastic solutions and changes are not easy, they take time to put together safely and they are worth the effort. We get used to living in fear and confusion.it,becomes almost impossible to imagine a better existence. This is where good therapy can help.
As you gain insights, don’t,tell him your,pearls,of,wisdom. He WILL find a way to throw it back in your face.
So sorry he is such a selfish, arrogant, asshole. Big fucking bummer.
We are her for you. We like and expect you. Save your good energy for those beautiful girls of yours.
Warm snuggly virtual hugs,
DesireeDecember 18, 2013 at 8:16 pm #120146girliewhirlies
Memberoh thanks so much desiree.. I appreciate yout post.. and I wil keep posting .. I just got back from counseling and she said to get tested and that the story I am telling is what she hears again and again and again.. so he is cheating on me.. that I have to decide what I will do when it all comes out and that it will come out.. faster with a pi.. but will come out. so as sobering and sad as it is,, I will be making a plan.. it is likes I am in shock.. really, you know? I can’t believe that he would cheat on me like this.. wtf? my heart is broken in a million pieces.. and he must take me for a total stupid ahole.. because he says he isn’t doing any cheating.. I hate this.. I build my world around him.. it rocks my whole faith in the foundation of any marriage.. how could I ever build my life around anyone again? I couldn’t .. I wouldn’t trust them.. omg.. it is so crushing and heartbreaking … I just want to throw up and I have to worry about my girls.. wtf.. I just want him caught.. but it looks like I am the one who is going to have to hire an pi and make a secret plan .. thanks again
December 18, 2013 at 8:33 pm #120147march
ParticipantIt would be awesome to catch him with a pro. Talk about career suicide. Then you’d have some serious leverage, G.
I’m sorry this hurts so much. Through the pain, though, try to take some action.
December 18, 2013 at 8:57 pm #120148diane
Participantdear Girlie,
just one thing at a time. don’t “ultamitize” the consequences. You will decide how much they can mean, in the end. Yes, you are in terrible shock. REmember what they say on the airplane—put your own oxygen mask on before you try and do anything else for anybody else. You first. You need to be in one piece, thinking as clearly as you can, with expert help. There will be time to fall apart after you secure what you need to emerge from this nightmare.December 19, 2013 at 12:40 am #120149kimberely
MemberOf course he says he’s not cheating. Seriously, what idiot is gonna just spew that out to his wife when accused. Ok, there might be one or two but normally they deny. In the words of my husband who used to say this until I did it…..”You ain’t got shit if you ain’t got pictures.”
I’ll tell you what I tell women on domestic violence calls….whether it’s verbal or physical that you are tolerating AND exposing your kids to it does the following-it teaches boys this is how to treat a woman and it teaches girls this what you are expected to tolerate in a relationship and this is love.
Most everyone I’ve either arrested for domestic abuse or helped out of a domestic abuse situation has said they saw one or both of their parents being abused or being abusive to the other parent. And that’s a fact.
December 19, 2013 at 1:01 am #120150desiree-larson
MemberGW – got you oxygen mask on? Yes? Keeps,it there are breathe slow, deep breaths. Remember the hood is the wind beneath your wings girlie.
Rooting for you,
Desiree who barely survived…but damn….did! Now, I am thriving. 🙂December 19, 2013 at 3:58 am #120151girliewhirlies
Memberoh thanks so much.. I am hanging in there.. it is a lot to process all at once right before Christmas with four kiddos .. I guess youa re right who would amidt it? but I would feel guilty .. and badly.. it is like a double hit onto me.. he cheats and then instead of the very least feelign guilty about it and being nicer, he is extra abusive to me.. what a gem.. I would take off both of my wedding bands, but screw that. he would probably give them to whomever it is he is screwing around with or he would sell them.. and that is what I am going to do.. down the road.. SELL them.. f you ahole..
December 19, 2013 at 4:40 am #120152desiree-larson
MemberGW- now you are thinking straight by makin plans for those bands. Read on the hood about ring drama. I had several episodes. One included the garbage, one included a hammer and one included a pawn shop. Do me a favor and learn to save yourself quicker than I did.
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