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February 20, 2012 at 2:37 am #4369kattMember
has anyone talked to lynn i looked the last time she was on was a week ago. thats what it says under members
February 20, 2012 at 7:36 am #28990kmfMemberI haven’t talked to her. I suspect she is taking a break either because she is so depressed because she cannot figure out a way to get rid of this guy OR she may be trying to give him another chnace because she is stuck with him anyway OR she is just tired out and needs a little break from SOS
Just my 2 cents.February 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm #28991lynngParticipantHi Katt and Karen,
I am here, and yes to all three suggestions. A really bad happenstance took me down for a while. I went to counseling, yes. I went to Dr., got some medication so I can actually breath again.
I got a new phone two weeks ago, and found out I needed a memory card to use my camera at a gallery event. H gave me one from his old phone. BAD BAD BAD move. I know it was an old phone he hasn’t used since we met, it was in an old camera bag. BUT, two nights later when I was at, of all things, a support group meeting concurrent with H’s Celebrate Recovery meeting, a lady there asked to see my latest work.
I took out my phone to show her the photos. I couldn’t find them, and so opened up the phone’s “gallery”. The lady was right beside me, we were laughing and talking, and what should come up but two folders of VERY VERY violent porn. Beyond anything I’ve ever seen or imagined by miles and miles. It was so awful I couldn’t even speak at all.
They talked me through that, both counselors, thank GOD. One for rape survivors. That’s what I felt like.
I came home and put the largest cleaver we have through the laptop where that stuff was downloaded. I took all the computers (three old ones waiting parts, two CPUs, two additional laptops, all the computer paraphenelia, every flash drive and removable drive, every unmarked disc, and both phones with web capacity and put them in my van, with the intent of taking them to computer guy to sell or just trash them.
Then, wouldn’t you know it, in my craziness, I lost the key to my van and still can’t find it. $80 minimum to get a new one, so it’s still sitting, loaded up, in the driveway. And I can’t get around unless H drives me. Sucks.
Thank GOD I took this computer out and put it on the walk, or my son couldn’t do school. But I would’t let it in the house except for that til today.
I talked to Verizon, the photos are all on the card, and had them cleaned off. It was not a recent download. All the photos were dated August or Dec 2006. But it was a rude, rude realization of just how depraved H’s tastes really were. H insists that since then he’s had two more six months bouts with the porn and the last was culminated with the hookers, not with more violent porn. He said that stuff was so disgusting he was physically sick after looking at it, and realized he could not do that anymore. He swears that when he was destroying all the porn he had, he never even thought of that phone.
H said the last time he was in a porn ‘cycle” it ended with the hookers, not more violent images or videos. He said he just couldn’t take that. He said he’s just sick of the whole thing, and I do believe him in that. As to whether he can beat it, well that’s a daily thing. He has made a LOT of changes and has many accountability partners and opened up a lot to me. But is was so incredibly dark I just crashed.
The meds took me down for a couple days, I just slept. Trying to surface again. I am nauseous and shaky, still getting used to this. I don’t even take Motrin easily, I’m a very holistic minded person.
H did in fact lose his job because of the Anderson Cooper thing, he says, I don’t know if that’s the complete truth but my knowing why won’t give him his job back. H was devastated. Then his old company called and said they want him back. He always wanted to go back, so he’s working that out. It’s in CA, though. We’re in SC.
February 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm #28992napParticipantLynn,
So sorry for all your recent trauma and heartache. I hope you are feeling a bit better. These guys are so damaging in so many ways it makes me sick.You’re a strong person although right now you may not feel like one. You are sooo out of this man’s league it isn’t funny. He’s so so sick it’s would take years and years and that’s only if he totally devoted himself, which only a few do.
Please know I’m thinking of you and sending you lots of caring support. I hope you get back to your neat spunky self soon. We have missed you greatly!
Love, Nap
February 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm #28993cbslifeMemberSoooooo very glad you’re back. Don’t worry about how the antidepressants make you feel. It does get better as your body gets adjusted to it. I’m so glad that you got some help for yourself. This is just way too hard to handle all on our own.
I know the shock you speak of finding porn pics. Though the ones I found were not as severe as the one’s you speak of. Still, all very shocking just the same. To think we thought we knew these guys only to find out that the side of them they showed us was all so fake.
Best of luck to you and much love …. Claire
February 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm #28994kattMembermy heart breaks for you
much love kattFebruary 21, 2012 at 6:57 pm #28995ms-lindyParticipantLord Lynn,
I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt this blow. I remember so well that feeling of being brought to your knees, and spending days on end not being able to function. I just wonder how much more you can take. Your H may be taking the right steps in turning his life around, but in the meantime it sure is taking it’s toll on you. I’ll keep you in my prayers, dear sister.
Lots o’ love coming to you.
LindyFebruary 21, 2012 at 6:59 pm #28996zumbagirlMemberDear Lynn,
I’ve been thinking of you often, and this latest post tears at my heart. I’m so very sorry. I’m so glad you do have some help.
Sending you love, and keeping you in my thoughts.Love Julie
February 21, 2012 at 7:09 pm #28997anniemMember((Huggs)) Lynn. I am so sorry. What a traumatic thing to add to the already horrible trauma. My h also got into darker and darker violent porn, and though I believe in my gut that he hasn’t done it since entering recovery 7 months ago, the fact that he could even be into that stuff at any time is so horrifying, and so not how I would have ever viewed him. Just want to say you’re not alone in this. The horrid darkness of the porn world and the realization that we love someone who is/was into that.. I just don’t know how to deal with that. There’s a weird pathos tied up in there as well..for me anyway..and it all just completely messes with one’s head. Sending you much love and support. xoxo
February 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm #28998kmfMemberDear Lynn,
I don’t know what to say. I am not surprised by anything your husband does because I believe he is very ill and I also believe you have just scratched the surface. I am really worried about what is in store for you going forward. The fact that he lost his job…wow….just another huge blow. Please do not let all these hurdles cloud your judgement Lynn. Keep yourself safe. We are all behind you and I am glad to see you back. Much Love, Karen
February 21, 2012 at 9:14 pm #28999dianeParticipantGood to connect again, Lynn, even though its still really an awful story. Thanks for sharing. I know we get sick of our own story sometimes. I’m glad to you got some help and took your own pain seriously.
Now, I’m thinking ahead to the possibility of your SA going to CA, and you negotiating to stay where you are. Maybe he’s ready to just start over and would pay you off to make you and what you know disappear. Just wondering out loud here, Lynn. I know SC isn’t where you started but maybe he would move you back to where you had a job and a life. I’m just hoping you won’t move yet again for this man.
Still in your corner,
D.February 21, 2012 at 9:53 pm #29000kmfMemberI have to agree with Diane. try not to fall for that old “Relocation solution”.
February 21, 2012 at 10:40 pm #29001zumbagirlMemberI agree…another move would just isolate you more. I know it’s a lot to think about, but Diane has some good advice.
Lots of hugs to you.
February 21, 2012 at 11:30 pm #29002marchParticipantLynn, you are light and he is darkness.
Think long and hard about uprooting your kids again to follow his sorry ass.
Feeling especially bitter today.
February 22, 2012 at 3:18 am #29003lynngParticipantIt sure is good to hear from you all again. It is so nice to feel cared for here. And you all give very wise counsel.
I am thinking there are a lot more con’s than pro’s to going to CA. But I don’t have any pro’s anywhere else. My old job isn’t hiring now. My mom is moving. My sister has moved. The family is split up all over the place and nobody has the time or room for me and my crisis.
I’m just flat out of options, and frankly, mentally not up to finding a job and starting over. This has shot my memory and my motivation straight to the toilet. I am hoping the medication at least gets me functional again. I’ve been sooooo bad, forgot to get my daughter at school last week, that’s how bad I was. It just has to get better.
I have to move yet again, regardless. It’s his house he had with his ex, and I can’t stay when he goes. It was part of his divorce that he sells it and she gets half the equity (if it EVER sells, and if there is any equity at the rate real estate prices are crashing around here.) My old house still isn’t sold, but there are four vacant houses on that short street, now, and I’d be scared there, alone.
Aren’t I a cry baby, though!!!
I know a lot of you have it way worse than me. Outside the porn, which is supposed to have stopped in Oct. 2011, I have no real things happening, NOW, to complain of and I know many do. So, please forgive me for making like my life is the worst drama. It could be worse, I know. I just have to learn how to manage, and what to do, and do it without letting those images and fears into my brain. I’m trying so hard.
February 22, 2012 at 3:47 am #29004kattMemberlynn dont ever think someone has it worse then someone else. we are all in our own hell yet share the same hall all the same. please know that you are as important as we all are. my heart breaks for you just as it does for myself. i wish i could take the pain from you i do feel it. i know with time things will clear and you will climb out of the dark. we can only process so much and i know first hand i spent the better part of a month after my 2 big d-eath day. sitting on a chair to the point one day that i didnt have the life in me to get up to use the bathroom and sat there are peed myself. so just give yourself time and keep talking here because you mean the world to us
much love katt-kathyFebruary 22, 2012 at 5:30 am #29005dianeParticipantI’m so glad you are my sister, Katt. I hope to meet you one day.
as they say– here, there, or in the air.February 22, 2012 at 5:38 am #29006lizaParticipantGod Lynn, I feel your pain as if it were my own. Just reading your description of your discovery made me physically ill. Do whatever you can do to feel better. Love, Liza
February 22, 2012 at 5:49 am #29007kattMemberdiane you made me cry i so can not wait to meet you. you are the first religious person i really believe in. also betrayed i was so impressed with her and her belief. i had such misgiving about religion i love reading your posts i love how you see life and you are so real about it. how you once told me what happen to me growing up was wrong, that the cathloic religion and all did fail me. i love you for that.
much love kattFebruary 22, 2012 at 7:04 am #29008kmfMemberLynn, it seems it has just all been just too much?? You just hang on best you can and come and talk to us. We are here for you and we are sick for you over this latest discovery. You just do the best you can…..you just survive. Your spark will return and your desire for something better will return. In the meantime…..remember there is no reason to trust him…no reason at all? Stay safe. Karen xx
February 22, 2012 at 2:24 pm #29009napParticipantLynn, take good care, I’m thinking of you and so sorry for all your pain and trauma your SA has caused you. You are such a neat person, please do what you need to help heal. We all care about you.
Love, Nap
February 22, 2012 at 5:44 pm #29010anniemMemberLynn, you’re not a crybaby at all. I know what you mean about worrying about complaining because ‘somebody has it worse.’ I get stuck in that mindset as well, but I think it ends up stopping me really looking at what’s happened. I’m still trying to find a balance between acknowledging..and being very grateful.. that this is not the worst thing that could have happened, yet still acknowledging that it’s pretty damn terrible in itself.
katt, what you said about peeing yourself.. I know that feeling well. I find myself sitting or laying in bed, with a horrendously full bladder and trying to muster up the energy to go to the bathroom, as if it’s a supreme effort to even move. Even though it’s been over six months since the main d-day. The exhaustion is still overwhelming, and I wasn’t exactly a ball of energy even before all this happened. xoxo
February 22, 2012 at 6:32 pm #29011kattMemberanniem you wrote -I’m still trying to find a balance between acknowledging..and being very grateful.. that this is not the worst thing that could have happened, yet still acknowledging that it’s pretty damn terrible in itself.
i too felt this way then one day i wrote out since day one things he did and came to the conclusion he crossed my values from the first time i found something. here is how it happened. i found porn on his computer nothing really harsh but porn none the less. he knew from the start i was against porn use, yet when i found it he says its old stuff he forgot he had. should have ended it there because i know he said he felt the same way when we talked before about it. now he has lied on top of the porn. lying to me was always close to the top for me as far as values. so now im 2 and 0. then one day i find barely legal porn on my computer and i go off the deep end he swears its not his and i really question myself but the computer is open to my kids and their friends also have used it. but you know what that computer has never had porn on it until he moved in. kids to me were the reason i lived now i doubt myself big mistake because once i did that it was all downhill. things for me shifted my values moved with it. then he started to do things to me and my past took hold i would freeze and let him. the freeze or flight thing having to do with trauma, i never fight i couldnt. but i also knew that he took my most important value safety from me.
so when you say balance and grateful would you have moved you values if just say they called this addiction instead his choice. i know without a doubt if my values were not stomped on by him but also myself he would have been gone along time ago. so why have i stayed well he has a addiction. another way to i have looked at it every person has a good side or part to them yet they are still a evil person. look at all the serial killers, rapists,child molesters, and so forth. if they didnt have a good side would they have gone on so long. i wish you peace in your decisions and know that its a really shitty road to travel
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