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  • #3298
    marie
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    As our marriage therapist recently reminded us, every relationship has a power dynamic and she asked us what ours was.
    When I was with my husband all those years and couldn’t negotiate change in his behavior toward me, no matter what I did, I gave him my power and the power of the relationship because I didn’t leave or ask him to leave.
    On d-day #1, the power dynamic started to tilt back toward me, but I didn’t have enough strength or knowledge ( didn’t know about SA) to get it back yet.
    By d-day #2, I got my power back, seemingly instantly….but I know that the self care and recovery I was doing for myself between the d-days played a role in that instantaneous feeling.

    It feels really good and I know that I won’t give my own power to anyone again:)
    Please share your own thoughts.
    Marie

    #14220
    busybee
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    Well done Marie on regaining your power.

    Unfortunatelly, I still feel like HE has mine. He convinced me not to leave for years and then called time on the relationship when he had his replacement waiting in the wings. He pins me down to dates he wants the children months in advance before I have a chance to consider my arrangements and he has still been coming into the house every time he drops the boys off (they’re 13 and 14 so don’t need accompanied to the door!) The last week or two though (after he told me to f**k off) I’ve started to make a few subtle changes which have had a big effect on how I feel. I now park my car at the end of my drive so he has to park on the street (just makes me feel better, especially since he once parked on my drive with HER in the car), I make sure I’m busy when he drops the boys off so he can’t engage me in conversation, I didn’t let him dictate that I had to sit next to him at the children’s music concert last week (he usually does). Sat next to my friend and had a much nicer evening. I also won’t engage in his provocative conversations such as about him losing his job etc. if he mentions it I just give minimal response and don’t ask any questions. That way he isn’t getting the reaction he craves. He has backed off a lot. I also have a sense of power as I know about his visits to prostitutes now, but he has no idea I know, and won’t until the solicitor mentions it.

    Hopefully I’m heading in the right direction

    Bb
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    #14221
    nap
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    Busybee,
    You sound so good and I think you are taking your power back. Good for you, keep up the good work!
    love, nap

    #14222
    b-trayed
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    Busybee,

    I am so proud of you. Isn’t it tough when people break your boundaries so easily? When I was younger and would get something new, like a pair of new shoes or outfit, my sister would ask to use it before I did…I totally did not want her to, but could not really get the courage to say “No.” My preference: she would not ask. It reminds me of your situation…wouldn’t it be great if he would not come into the house, not talk about losing his job, not whatever. BUT that is so not how these men work. They break our boundaries without a thought.

    I am proud of the changes you chose to make. You are much stronger than you think! You have more personal power, determination, and problem-solving skills than you realize.

    My friend’s h left her and her fam and divorced. He too came into the house whenever he chose. She asked her lawyer if he was allowed to do that, and the answer-legally-was “NO!” She told him what the lawyer said and would take further action if necessary. The lawyer said he would even write a letter to state this law to the h. I hope you look into that. YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE BUSY TO AVOID HIM! HE NEEDS TO STOP COMING IN IF THAT IS WHAT THE LAW SAYS AND WHAT YOU WANT! (unless you want him to come in for the children.)

    Another thought…perhaps write a list of ways you are being proactive…list on one side of the paper what you did, like sat with a friend. List on the other side what you could have tolerated-but didn’t-sitting with your h who mistreats you and doesn’t value you. As your list grows, you will see that you MADE THE CHOICE TO HELP YOURSELF AND WERE PROACTIVE! It may encourage you!

    B. Trayed

    #14223
    nap
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    Hi Marie,
    Interesting post. I think when I started to take my power back it caused a real shift in our relationship. A shift he didn’t like at all because it made him feel out of control. He would then throw some monkey wrench into our life somehow to regain control but it didn’t work. The last one he did, I think really backfired on him. I didn’t crawl back begging, I saw it for what it was….I’ve just been made fu*king homeless by a crazy as*hole SA, I’m getting the hell out of this marriage!!!
    love and real, nap

    #14224
    flora
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    HI Marie,
    You are a busy bee lately.
    I felt hopeless and listless duing the beginning of the disaster. I felt hopeless when they told me you are a co-dependent, simply because you are married to an addict, and that you are partly to blame. Wow talk about making a person who is senstive to others and feeling and situations really feel like @?it now, not that i did not already.

    So power came back to me when I started to realize you people are completely wrong. I am not a co-dependent i have been trying to manage to live a normal life with a liar and a user. So i was doing the best I could. once i realized he was a liar and a user, I set up boundaries and a framework to test my theories which he failed. I took my power back the moment that i decided that I am going to listen to myself in this matter, and i know what is best for me, not these therapists. So off I went blazing a trail into the new unkown. I cannot imagine what my life would be like right now if I had stayed with him. No matter how bad it gets, living with someone who just can;t be real with you is maddening, somewhat who can;t tell the truth is maddening. the disease then spreads to you, and then you can be brought down with the sinking ship.

    I have been thinking alot about the choices I have made. should I have given him more time, am i being unreasonable, all marriages have difficulties but was I just not stong enough to stay?

    But what it boils down to for me was making the decisions based on what I want. If I would have stayed, i would not have followed my heart, which was telling me heavily he will not change and he cannot be trusted. He has lied to you and he does it with such ease, you will never know when he lies to you. And that would kill me.

    So granted I will now be single and with no companion in life. Atleast I am following my heart. He has/had so many opportunities to do the right thing, which never happened. I don;t want to fell used and abused for the rest of my life. So now I do have my power back. He may still hold the power over my heart, while i continue to struggle over the lost marriage and abuse, but it will get better with time. My H was completely bounday less in that he took full advantage of others. He can’t do that to me anymore.

    #14225
    b-trayed
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    Could someone define what “taking the power back” or “I gave him the power of the relationship?” Does power dynamic in a relationship mean someone has more power to have their opinions and decisions happen? I just want more clarity. Thanks, great post Marie.

    #14226
    marie
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    Hi B. trayed,
    I think that is exactly what the phrase means. It means being in control of your own life and not letting someone else’s wishes change the way we choose to live our life or influence the women we are in our core. It does not mean having power over our SA husbands and it does not mean being in control of the relationship if we stay in it. those things are not possible, we can never have control over someone else. It means that we are able to be who we really are and are making good choices for ourselves and if that can’t happen in the relationship, we understand that we need to be out of it.

    that’s just how I look at it, would love to hear other ideas:)
    Marie

    #14227
    busybee
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    Hi sisters

    LOL!!! Just sat here and realised another change I’ve made. Each day at around 5.40pm the home phone rings and it’s always him wanting to speak to the kids. The kids both have cell phones, so no reason he can’t ring them on those (apart from the usual forgetting to charge them sometimes!). I always answer the phone (kids are too lazy to get up!) so I ended up having to hear his voice and it gave him the opportunity to wind me up. I’ve now started leaving the phone to ring. I know who it is, it’s not for me, I don’t want to speak to him. If the boys are in they are free to answer the phone and speak to him, but I’m not going to. Bet he’s getting really pissed!

    Bb
    x

    #14228
    flora
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    Yes power is your will and your heart. Doing as you feel.

    Lets say you are looking into a career change or in school and having to pick your major. You are totally not sure what to do, but you know you hate math, and you hate working in an office. The guidance counselar comes in and says…we have decided that you are going to be finance advisor at abc bank. We have enrolled you in a program where all you are taking is math. You are told you are not allowed to voice your opinion, that what you want does not matter and the choice has been made. And if they get word that you do not like you major; you will go to prison.

    Okay so in this situation, someone has made a decision for you, and then not only have they made you rdecision for you…you have been also told you cannot even have a voice….you are now powerless. You are not allowed to choose what you wanted to do nor are you even allowed to speak your mind. And as day after day goes by, you succomb to the fact that this is your life and you are not allowed to change it. So you become tired, beat down and in many ways listless and void of opinion, as each day you die a littel inside.

    Having your power is your moral compass, your passion and your drive. Its living your life for you and based on what you want to do. Its that zest for life that I cannot quite describe. But once you have it back, you will know what it is. And the only way it comes back is by being true to yourself.

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