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  • #8536
    zumbagirl
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    Hi Sisters!
    I know there are some of you I don’t know. I’m hoping posting an update won’t seem self indulgent, but will also help some of you going down the path of divorce from a narcissist. For that is what my SA is. The addiction now seems like such a small part of “who he is.” And at this point, I consider him an monster of a person.
    Last time I was on SOS a couple of months ago, I was considering changing lawyers. I did just that at the end of August, and I’m glad I did, although I’m out $4500 to the first lawyer, and according to him, owe another $1500. I’ll be fighting that, as the man literally did no work. He did not care about my concerns and fears, and certainly not about getting me the best settlement I could hope for. He had made the main goal of the divorce whether I was “keeping the house or going” and worked everything around that. My plan was to get an apartment, as our house is big, and a lot to keep up with. I was just on the verge of moving when I switchec lawyers. A poor proposal for spousal maintenance and support was hanging in the air, and I felt like I was on the verge of moving with not a great chance of my attorney making an aggressive counter proposal. I felt like I was not only getting mowed over by my SA, but also both attorneys. What an awful feeling…like nobody was on my side.
    Well, I interviewed and retained the best known pit bull attorney in town. His nickname is “the devil.” I had to scrounge and take a cash advance for the $7500 retainer fee. I’m not regretting that for a moment. What I’m regretting is the money I paid to the first attorney. I can blame myself partly. I did not interview enough attorneys. But I can also say that I wasn’t strong enough to get someone tough at the time I filed. Stupidly, even after all I’ve been through, I thought SA would somehow play fair for the sake of the kids. WOW…RUDE AWAKENING!!!!!!!
    Well, the first thing the new attorney asked at the initial interview was, “if you have no money, why are you moving?” Just as background, I left my audiology career in 2004 to be home with the kids. Hubby paid the bills and advanced his career. I just went back to work as the manager of a local dance apparel store. THe pay is low and without benefits. But it caters to my daughter’s schedule, I like it, and I it was a good step back into the working world in the midst of PTSD. So I told the attorney I didn’t have a good answer other than that I trusted in the system that I would have money and also that I wanted to get away from the tension (aka gaslighting and abuse) at home. He told me whether I hired him or not, he recommend I not move yet, as it would potentially force me into a poor settlement. So that day I decided 2 things: not to move yet, and to hire this attorney. (BTW, I did have another interview. It went fairly well, but I also had a nagging feeling that I wouldn’t fare much better than with the first attorney.)
    So far I’ve been THRILLED with the professionalism and work ethic of this firm. The first thing the new attorney did was initiate discovery and set a deposition date, which is this coming Tuesday. The old attorney did NONE of that. My SA has to produce tons of financial records. As some of you know, he’s a financial advisor. I trusted him with all finances. I suspect there is hidden money. Whether it can be found or not, I don’t know. My SA did appear to drain a joint account of $40,000 prior to filing, thanks to the sleuth work of a good techie friend. Ladies, listen to the advice about setting money aside before you file.
    Anyway, here’s the hard part. The gaslighting and abusive behavior has escalated since my husband found out I got the new attorney. He pulled a lot of crap this summer as it is: ripping the thermostat off the wall, because he didn’t like the temperature. He has removed lightbulbs, and even threw away a treasured photo of Patty (Silver Lining!) and I, destroying the frame she bought me. Other things have been destroyed and gone missing. (BTW none of these concerns were heeded by first attorney.) Since switching attorneys, I had to tell him I’m not moving (yet). He has harrassed me, telling me my kids “want me to move” and that it’s “my anxiety at work.” Thank God I have saved all texts, emails, etc. He has involved the kids and upset them. Two days after I told him, very politely, that I wasn’t moving yet, he ripped the family modem out of my hands, saying he didn’t trust me, paid for the internet, and that I couldn’t use it. That same day he accused me of taking his keys (I hadn’t) and threatened to call the police. He also involved our 16 year old daughter, upsetting her. She asked to talk to us both that night. During that time, SA brought up attorney issues in front of her, told us he deserves the bedroom (I have been out of master bedroom) and the garage (he had changed code on garage door opener) because he paid the bills. Needless to say, the exchange left her (and me) more upset than ever). The next day, he sent a text to myself, my daughter, and my son in college demanding a family meeting, saying “the destruction of this family cannot continue.” I told him it wasn’t happenening. He threatened to do it with or without me, but my kids didn’t want to be part of it, and it didn’t happen. Well, at that point, he became friendly and civil for the next few weeks. I suspected it was a temporary reprieve, but I enjoyed it while it lasted.
    Sure enough, a few weeks later, I got a sudden text announcing he was moving, and he had already told the kids and extended family. THis would seem like a good thing. However, a few days later, he announced a “moving out meeting” the following weekend. He was having my son come home from college. We were all told to attend to learn the maintenance and upkeep of the home, including a lot of jobs that traditionally have been his. I was pissed my son was coming home from college, and pissed that he was employing some fear tactics, as if nobody besides him has ever taken care of a home before. At the meeting, he had a piece of paper he wanted us ALL to sign saying that we understood the implications of not taking care of a long list of maintenance issues. Of course, I did not sign, and certainly not the kids. Fucking asshole.
    Well, of course I have been keeping my attorney aware of this. Following the meeting, he sent SA’s attorney a cease and desist letter. This has only served to infuriate him more. I don’t regret sending it. The more on record the better. But for the record, last weekend, he harrassed me about how and when I would mow the lawn. In another exhchange, he called me a “lying fucking cunt” and a “whore.” Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that the smarter me recorded these incidents on my phone. NY is a state where this is allowed.
    As of now, SA still claims to be moving, but nothing has happened yet. He’s playing a game, and also controlling his own attorney. He even suggested I do the same. (Thanks for the tip, asshole).
    Anyway, I’m sitting here typing this all very unemotionally, trying to get it all out, but feeling like it’s long and boring. ANd meanwhile, truth be told, I cry almost every day. I’m stressed and anxious. I hear the horrible things he says to me, and I’m still at the point where I believe some of them, and have to remember not to; it’s just a 22 year habit. And then I hate that I believe it. But I’ve also come a long way. I’m scared of the deposition…nervous about my part and just going through it, even though I’m an open book, and more nervous about how he will be after the fact, esp. since we are both in the house. But I’ve made my attorney aware of this, and I have a phone meeting with him Monday. He will fight for me tooth and nail. That I know.
    Say prayers, for those of you who do that. For those of you who know me and have supported me, thank you, thank you, thank you. Every day I feel stronger and smarter, and I know this will be ok at some point. As hard as it is, it’s been a learning curve. Getting there!!
    Keep y’all posted!! xoxoxoxo

    #114237
    liza
    Participant

    Well hello there Julie! I have missed you! So sorry to hear that the motherfucking piece of shit is still drawing breath – girl time to get busy with those ninja moves. 😈

    #114238
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Hey Liza!
    I’ve missed you!! By the way, as part of his “moving out maintenance,” he told me I needed to maintain or winterize the hot tub. ummmmm…. NO

    #114239
    972
    Member

    Hey Julie, I hear the very best way to winterize the hot tub is a dead body in it….just sayin’……. Maybe he could get in it one more time and fucking choke on his cigar?

    Glad to hear from you and you hang in there girl. He is an asshole from hell and I hope he winds up back where he came from 🙂

    #114240
    katf
    Participant

    Hey Zumbagirl. I appreciate your post…all of it. When I first posted my story I felt bad because it was so long. What I’ve come to learn is that however long the post is, getting your story or update out is beneficial for both the poster and the Sisters.

    I read your original story and updates. I’m really glad you switched lawyers. It’s amazing how many out there will charge a pretty penny but are lazy, dishonest or don’t seem to care about your best interests. I’m sorry you have to stay in the house right now. That has got to be hard. I’ve seen situations where the PD person tried to control the chores or tasks that were done around the house before. Hopefully if he does move out you can change the locks. HOPEFULLY he moves out.

    I am very sorry you’re going through this. I hope your lawyer gives him hell.

    #114241
    katf
    Participant

    Yes Bev, can we banish them all to the lake of fire?

    #114242
    972
    Member

    They have banished themselves there as far as I am concerned. We don’t have to do anything. They have done enough 🙂

    #114243
    cbslife
    Member

    Jules!!!

    I’ve missed you, too!

    So, so, sorry for what you are going through. I know how you feel with the asshole saying one thing and we just wait for it to happen.

    We were going to sign refi papers on the house, then we werent’, then we did! Then we were going to sell the house and go our separate ways, now we’re not, now I get to stay because he feels bad for me (yeah right!) and he will move out. It’s just a matter of weeks before he get’s sentenced and he’s still living here. I don’t think he’s going anywhere but I pray to God that maybe this ONE time I might be able to believe him. If he moves, I will drop to my knees and thank the Lord out loud. Same with yours. I sure hope he does.

    So glad to have you back. Will you stick around? Hope so.

    Donkey hugs, girlfriend!

    Claire

    #114244
    kimberely
    Member

    ZG, what a nightmare. No, it’s not boring to us. It’s educational and gives us knowledge and power of how to deal with these jackasses.

    I love your attorney. I hope he keeps delivering.

    Thinking of you,
    Kimberley

    #114245
    diane
    Participant

    Hi ZG, I am so proud of you and the steps you are taking to insist that the value of your life, your contribution to the marriage, and your children are worth way more than this abusive creature wants to claim. His “pushback” is obvious and predictable. You are very smart to record him at his worst, document his abuse and bullying. I hope you have good support for yourself during this rotten time. Remember you have ours, everyday, whether you are online here or not.
    love
    Diane.

    #114246
    teri
    Participant

    Julie,
    What a nightmare. I don’t know why you should have to live with an asshole like that. He scares me. And the way he has involved the kids is just bullshit. You all need to be protected from his abuse. I really don’t understand the system. But I am glad that your attorney is being more proactive for you. Keep hanging in there. The only way out is through, unfortunately. But you’ll get there.

    #114247
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Thank you ladies, I KNEW I needed to get back on here…my best support truly. I have just let one day run into the next and have felt overwhelmed with divorce/life/daughter/work/SA shit.
    Diane, what you said about his predictable behavior is SOOO helpful. That’s why I knew I needed to get back on here. Because while my friends and families jaws drop when I tell them things, it’s also so validating to have someone say “yup, been there, done that, and here’s what to expect next.”
    Once again, he has told me he’s sick and tired of my abuse. (???)
    On a good note, in my life, I have been seeing a wonderful man. I can’t remember if I posted that a few months ago…I think I may have. It’s been going on 9 months. He lives in Boston, about 5 hours away, so we try to get together once a month, plus or minus. With the exception of a few close friends, we are keeping the romantic relationship private, especially for the sake of my kids, until the time is right. I’m being careful, but he’s a good man, someone I met over 20 years ago through work, and a friend and support first and foremost. So he keeps me going, along with you all, and a great circle of friends and family locally and afar. When I feel a bit scared or intimidated, there’s always someone to call, be it Silver Lining, Brett (my guy), or a couple of other close friends or family members.
    love you all.

    #114248
    diane
    Participant

    ZG, Wonderful to hear that “love is come again, like wheat the springeth green” (one of my favourite Easter hymns–“Now the green blade riseth”).
    I don’t think your Sa’s nastiness is unrelated to this. Even if you think he doesn’t know, he may well know or suspect, and even that possibility will be driving him insane.
    The fact is that you have stopped being his quiet punching bag. How dare you change your role? What has happened here is as simple as that. You won’t lie down and take his shit anymore. Stand back and let everyone have a good look, let everyone get to REALLY know him. Give him enough rope to hang himself.

    #114249
    anniem
    Member

    God, Julie. I am so sorry for everything he’s put you through. He is really a sick control freak. But in spite of that, you seem amazingly strong. I know you and your kids are going to be ok, and I’m so glad you have that pit bull attorney looking out for you. Sending you big hugs and prayers and healing thoughts. xoxo

    #114250
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Thank you…not always as strong as I wish I was, but getting there little by little. I wanted to keep this post an overview, but I definitely want to post more about his recent gaslighting, abuses, and involvement of the kids. All very difficult emotionally.

    #114251
    kmf
    Member

    Julie my dear, of all the assholes I have been introduced to on this forum…I still hold a special place of contempt for your H and his f–king hot tub! I am THRILLED you have a new man and family and friends that support you and of course you have Silver Linings. Keep moving forward. The abuse is escalating because he is losing control and he knows it. This horrible phase will not last forever and then you will be able to live in peace. So great to hear from you.
    Love Karen

    #114252
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Karen,
    So happy to hear from you!! I keep holding onto the thought that this horrible phase won’t continue forever. It’s like walking directly into the most terrifying storm and knowing there’s no turning back. I thought there was nothing worse than the 2 D days I went through. Silly me!

    #114253
    zumbagirl
    Member

    And by the way, I have to give credit where credit is due. Brett (my wonderful guy) and Patty (Silver Lining) were hugely instrumental in my changing attorneys and pushing me to go about it. I bring this up because perhaps some of you, like me, have kept a lot to yourselves, and have learned the habit of not reaching out to others for help or sharing your story outside of SOS. Rich finds asking for help weak and shameful, and I fell into his way of thinking over the course of a twenty year marriage. A tremendous weight has been lifted by learning to lean on and trust friends. Nobody can go through this alone, as we all know just from being on this site.

    #114254
    nap
    Participant

    Hi ZG,
    What a nightmare your Stbx h is!!! I’m so happy you switched attorneys because this guy or firm sounds like they are not going to tolerate his crap. I’m happy to hear about Brett and that you have many people for support. I hope your divorce goes quickly and you will be free from that abuser ah. Love you ZG!
    ~Nap

    #114255
    zumbagirl
    Member

    love you, Nap!!! xoxo

    #114256
    lynng2
    Participant

    Congratulations on hiring an attorney who is a capable of taking down a narcissistic SA. Through this time here I’m come to realize it takes a special breed, pitbull is a good description.

    Glad you are posting and hope it helps to sort through this outrage. Sounds like you are on a good path forward now.

    #114257
    zumbagirl
    Member

    Thank you, Lynn! The hard part is that ever since switching attorneys, he’s escalated so much that I wonder if I’ve done the right thing, putting myself into this tornado. But I know that’s just the part of me that wants to run away and be at peace thinking those thoughts. I also don’t want to get caught in the web of spending ungo”dly amounts on attorney fees. So sickened on what I spent on the original attorney for NOTHING. But I do feel there are certain attorneys that can deal with this type of person, and sometimes there doesn’t seem to be another choice.

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